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2 minutes ago, ChivalryTheWolf said:

Thats wrong because inside there area on there wall says 'YOU HAVE NO MILLITARY POWER" and that post is fucking old things have changed 

 

I haven’t heard of any changes since then, do you have any links?

2 minutes ago, Delta said:

how is a droid reprogramming a jedi/sith matter 

I have no idea about the incident just responding to the NO MILITARY POWER comment

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Well there's no way you can sit there and say COMPNOR have no part in any dodgy shit and petty responses in many circumstances, this is not targeted at any one person we are all guilty of this fact th

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A few things;  High health, running ahead of infantry and blocking hallways, honestly you just get in the way. You're either getting in the way or rushing way ahead and ruining everything. S

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3 minutes ago, FireCup said:

I haven’t heard of any changes since then, do you have any links?

ever since I joined INQT back in 2019 that has been the rule 

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9 minutes ago, Curly said:

any kind dude

 

Cheddar is good but generic, camembert is good but is very creamy and not to everyones taste although i like it. Brie is also good, but as much as i said cheddar is generic when its smoked cheddar i will kill for that.

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We do have military power

All wanted to see was suggestions to how we could better ourselves, e.g. 'you guys should do more rp', or 'you should keep numbers in events to a minimum unless a jedi shows up,' that kind of stuff which some people did giving some helpful comments. Some did not do this and instead just abusing Sith.
As I stated im fine with hearing negative comments but just yelling at us is not helpful and instead you should try being positive to help Sith in the futrue. (:

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4 minutes ago, Glosko said:

We do have military power

All wanted to see was suggestions to how we could better ourselves, e.g. 'you guys should do more rp', or 'you should keep numbers in events to a minimum unless a jedi shows up,' that kind of stuff which some people did giving some helpful comments. Some did not do this and instead just abusing Sith.
As I stated im fine with hearing negative comments but just yelling at us is not helpful and instead you should try being positive to help Sith in the futrue. (:

Yes agreed, i apologize for navy and siths actions in furthering this argument. 

To help sith improve form watching in the shadows for upwards of 2 years, i recommend try and work further with army, more tactical thinking in ways of pushing an enemy. What i find is that army and navy when you are around tend to shoot you whilst you advance to block enemy fire, as much as this block is cool we cant shoot the enemy. So finding a way maybe to work around this and create further action with army. As you said more RP and the general things. :) 

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5 minutes ago, Glosko said:

We do have military power

All wanted to see was suggestions to how we could better ourselves, e.g. 'you guys should do more rp', or 'you should keep numbers in events to a minimum unless a jedi shows up,' that kind of stuff which some people did giving some helpful comments. Some did not do this and instead just abusing Sith.
As I stated im fine with hearing negative comments but just yelling at us is not helpful and instead you should try being positive to help Sith in the futrue. (:

You should focus more on finding jedi and working with an em so you could go kill them rather than killing people with an Aos on them, for SG not much can be helped because you focus more on others being active/on ship because your main point is to guard high ranking people such as Vader or Tarkin but they are "off ship" right now so its a tough spot

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31 minutes ago, Angus said:

Cheddar is good but generic, camembert is good but is very creamy and not to everyones taste although i like it. Brie is also good, but as much as i said cheddar is generic when its smoked cheddar i will kill for that.

it is generic but its still a good cheese non the less

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11 hours ago, Glosko said:

You had no business with this and have no idea on what the context was in reactor

Obviously you can't read what I said, nor do you have the intuition to put the pieces together. Delta, the leader of the people you were pissing people off, came to us and explained the situation. He used us as a security detail to remove non-essential people. I'm not sure if you people have tried it, but communication goes a long way. 

 

11 hours ago, Glosko said:

(Dt/isb/comp) petty KOS and AOS are an every night occurrence

You're also holding onto ancient history, COMPNOR as a whole doesn't do remotely the amount of petty actions of old, and hasn't for a long time. Once again I'll say it, DT will kill when our VIP orders it, not cause we're offended. We have mouths, we'll fire back with that. Really scraping the bottom of the basic argument barrel.

 

11 hours ago, Glosko said:

The debrief:
-Bringing that up just shows how you guys AOS/KOS for petty reasons as the ISB member made a comment on INQ speaking being disgusting which he replied your disgusting where no AOS was placed, you tased and cuffed him without giving the sibling (the one not being aos'ed) a reason, where you would then have likely taken him to ISB not the brig and tortured and taken his light saber for a petty disrespect instead of brig time.

You make choices based off assumption, you ASSUMED that he would be tortured, which is another opinion based off stigma. If you had taken just a second to converse with the Director who had ordered the AOS, or us, which you didn't, you'd understand a lot more. Kill first ask questions later, snooze. If literally anyone else was tased without being given a reason (which is how it happens when the arrest order is given verbally, btw.), they wouldn't be able to get their buddies to kill their way out of it, not in rp OR according to server rules.

11 hours ago, Glosko said:

Its not our fault when EM design a hallway which can only fit 2 people standing next to each other and block it to deflect majority of incoming fire and protect our baby ST's ;3, and when we do rush ahead its because we stay natural in combat only blocking incoming fire or standing our of harms way which is when EC think they can target us which we target them and neutralize.

Last I checked the EM didn't design the tram lines, or the ISD map as a whole. Don't try and ignore the countless times you block literally every hallway in the ship, you get in the way and complain about getting shot. You literally just make things harder than it needs to be.

 

11 hours ago, Glosko said:

Finally our role is to be the Emperors eyes and being present in all disputes/getting involved is totally justifiable as we are there to enforce his wishes, which can let us side with one group over the other based on the situation.
-INQ are powerful jedi killing and combat specialists and you are lucky to have them fight next to you's however that is only hated on because we have to much health when they stand at the front of combat protecting majority of troops.

You're the Emperors eyes, yet we don't actually have an Emperor on the server anymore. You can literally do anything and say "Oh the Emperor willed it.". Show me where the Emperor has told YOU, specifically, to get involved in literally everything for him. You answer to a figurehead who is nonexistent in the balancing of the server which allows you to justify poking your noses in everything. Last I checked, he wanted Inquisitors to HUNT Jedi, not stand around an wait for them to attack the ship. 

 

You are powerful, and you are combat specialists, you do specialise in killing Jedi. So do that, stop getting involved in random shit that no one asked you to be present for. 

11 hours ago, Hawkz said:

Issues are acknowledged but talking about isolated incidents is just asking for a response and not achieving any valuable discussion, we could just go ahead and start doing the exact same thing and rattle off all of your individual incidents mostly involving blatant RP disrespect and player disrespect but that would just add to nothing but argument. 

Funny how you mention RP disrespect. We throw around backhand fourth grade insults if you piss us off, we don't put a .12 on your chest like you're Tom Brady. Again, if you were that insulted over it, you'd AOS me. Still, bringing up my flaws in a thread dedicated to the flaws of YOUR branch is pretty funny. The more I see it, this post was just created to draw out the people that froth over Sith so you can feel good about yourselves. Talk about keeping good relations, yet all you do is try and redirect the issues back at those complaining. I wanna see you guys as the cool dudes who kill Jedi and fuck shit up, and I'm sure you want DT to improve how they behave. We're working on it, maybe you should start? 

 

My posts aren't meant to be insulting, they're just blunt opinions from my brain. I don't wanna sugar coat everything to please you. Again, do with it what you will. This isn't a DT, ISB, Navy or Army post, this is a Sith post. 

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37 minutes ago, Dodger said:

it is generic but its still a good cheese non the less

So we gonna forget Parmigiano-Reggiano smh easily one of the best cheeses as it has many uses. But you are right it is pretty good cheese

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I sort of wanted to stay out of this out of a sense to avoid causing further drama. However, I feel as though a point needs to be made here. As disappointing as the incident in the reactor room was, the other day, it was in my opinion all built on a misunderstanding that could have been avoided, however, let's move past that for the moment.

@Gloskofirst of all, thanks for coming forward and making this post and I'm glad to see this as a means to improve relations between Sith and other Regiments. I for one don't want to see regiments (including Engineers) and the entirety of Sith come to blows, where issues like that of the other day lead to sore subjects in a game we're all meant to enjoy because, if we're not enjoying it, what's the point of playing, right? The matter of fact is we could go back and forth for hours and fill up the forums with that debate for all to see but it would only, ultimately, boil down to the same question. "What's the answer to all of this?"

13 hours ago, Hawkz said:

Our job is not to be soft to anyone or take shit from anyone, we will fight even if we are wrong because we are members of the Emperor's Inquisitorious. This server would be very boring if everyone was just happy and got along. Deal with it.

I don't disagree with that opening line of thought, Inquisitorius members would most definitely maintain this mindset in-character, just as ISB would be indifferent in their pursuit for security, or Navy would be in their strictness for code and the ISD's upkeep. This approach does, however, inherently mean people will always be somewhat distant with Sith. This is not the point I am trying to make, however. the point is .

The point is, often when these situations between other regiments and Sith come to light, it's because both parties to the RP tend to be relatively passionate in the effort made in-character to stick to a role which inevitably boils out into OOC issues. I mentioned enjoying the game before, more on that, I understand that parties take enjoyment in adversarial Role-play, I am no stranger to it, having been around during the times Navy and ISB locked horns years ago, frequently, and thus I understand that adversarial RP is something always present, we are playing Imperial Characters after all, in-fighting and politics is rife.

I do really think keeping ooc and ic separate, something Bailey mentioned previously, is the best way forward for everyone, and is something we could all work towards. At the end of the day if we can all leave our characters at the door when necessary, separate ourselves from their views, and get along more as people in general, as members of the IG community, I really think that would go a long way and even enhance RP, allowing us to go ham with our character's RP without ooc issues occurring.

Cheers guys.

- Queball

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47 minutes ago, Dodger said:

it is generic but its still a good cheese non the less

I don't really have a favourite cheese cause they're all versatile and good for different things, but like...if I had to just take a chomp out of a block I'd go with Parmigiano-Reggiano. Bro that shit goes HARD.

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14 hours ago, LilHavana said:

A few things;

 High health, running ahead of infantry and blocking hallways, honestly you just get in the way. You're either getting in the way or rushing way ahead and ruining everything.

Shadow guard have supreme authority to do whatever they want and answer to no one. Not like we have an active Vader role to keep you in line, or a Palpatine. The only person who can control them is, you guessed it, another Shadow Guard who holds a ridiculously high rank.

The KOS license gives sensitive people the ability to kill whoever hurts their feelings. Even if the license was removed, or would be threatened to be removed, Sith still get flexibility when killing people whether you want to acknowledge it or not. You may rebut this with DT's license, however more often then not, we were ORDERED by our VIP to execute the person, you just do it on a whim and without warning.

You all entered the reactor room just to boost your numbers in there, obviously trying to "intimidate" or get involved when literally no one asked you to be in there, and when asked to leave by the Delta you needed to be told a multitude of times. If ANYONE were to enter the temple like that they'd be killed on the spot. Stop walking around like you own the place and like everyone wants you there.

Stereotypical snarky backhand comments targeted at surrounding people which encourage a response - you then kill the person for reiterating and repeating themselves.

You get away with killing whoever tries to arrest you cause you're friends, for instance the situation in the debrief where security were ordered to arrest one of the siblings. Upon doing so, all were killed because you clearly had a panic attack about it in teamspeak and wanted to get out of it. No doubt if anyone else was to start blasting security for arresting one of their own, they'd be warned immediately. Literally untouchable OOC.

just the way i like it 

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Also Shadow guard are a very strict regiment. We don't just let in some sperg that will kill everyone when they get the chance, if a Shadow Guard is doing something, its for a reason. If a shadow guard is caught abusing their powers that are given to them, they are punished with a kick and blacklisted. Other regiments hate us because we have lightsabers, oh we can do anything because no one is higher then us, complain more. Its funny to see people complain when i don't even ignite my saber and i still get abused in events. Kinda funny how people cry when someone gets better stuff then you. People are jealous of shadow guard and its funny because this is a video game on a old ass fucking game, cope harder  

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Before this post gets locked for becoming a trashfire I'd like to say some things. I'm not going to bring up personal gripes with any players because I think that'd be unfair to the sith branch, and I'd like to touch on issues that I think can actually be rectified. 

Just to quickly touch on it, I'd like to say that the sith branch having military equivilence hasn't caused anywhere near as many issues as some people seemed to fear it would when it was first announced in the IG Training discord. I personally have no issues with the Military equivalence, aside from the fact that sith can have two seperate HC slots, with one to cover a 6 person regiment which I find to be foolish and reductive.

In my opinion, as other people have stated, there is no need for shadowguard anymore. With the emperor gone, the regiment has no meaningful reason to exist. Similarly, they're also one of the more complained about regiments (by EC's) due to them rushing enemys constantly with Z6's with their high health (although that won't be an issue again for ages until pointshop guns start getting bought again). I genuinely don't see a need for the regiment to be around aside from the people within it not really having anywhere to go if it was removed.

Similarly, I don't see a point for Shadowguard to maintain their all access (royal clearance) considering that was derived from a rule that Rook made while he was emperor that stated that imperial guard had access to all areas while the Emperor was online. With no emperor, again there is no point for shadowguard to exist because they've lost their primary RP and it hasn't really been replaced.

Event wise, I think sith have always been the black sheep. Even when I was GI, they basically were forced to stand around and do nothing for events. However, with the engagement rules being changed, I think that issues with sith have become slightly more prevalent as an issue especially after the TFA rework which basically nerfed the classic way of clapping sith easily. Personally I see no easy way to fix this. On other popular australian servers, saber wielders are general a donation role that people can choose to switch to which means the amount of them in events can easily be regulated. Often you'll only see 1-2 friendly saber wielders in an entire event. Our roles are assigned on a much more permeant basis meaning that the only real solution would be to cut sith slots. Personally, I think if the branch was just comprised of 6 marauders, 6-8 inquisitors and purge then it'd be a much more rounded branch, but I understand that shadowguard obviously aren't accounted for in this equation.

Regardless, I think sith also do need a rather decent health nerf to account for the fact that they're much stronger with the TFA rework. Aside from that I think that sith should focus more on exclusivity in order to become more desirable. I think sith have an image problem right now of either being difficult to deal with and I feel that steps could be taken to rectify that. 

Anyway, I hope that this helps somewhat. I think havana also raised some good points initially that I've heard a lot of other players repeat although I think he did it in a rather aggressive way. 

 

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1 hour ago, Glosko said:

how we could better ourselves

my 2 cents

Idk bro just act like normal people? I was in marauders for like 10 days and that shit was a cease pool of toxicity thank God I got kicked out.

At the end of the day y'all are sith, it is what it is. 

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58 minutes ago, yeff said:

Similarly, they're also one of the more complained about regiments (by EC's) due to them rushing enemys constantly with Z6's with their high health

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Glosko if you shoot me in the ass one more time in an event you shithead I will rain down a shitstorm upon you and your people

In all seriousness, I'm not personally involved with any of these majorish disputes so I won't comment on them, but I will say:

- The running ahead in events is still something that happens but aren't a huge deal as it's something that can be remedied quite easily

- The carelessness shown by a few during events that lead to them accidentally killing others with their sabers (shitheads pistol) is getting a little annoying

Be free to ignore my comments since I'm actually inactive so they don't mean much 

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IG Imperial Roleplay.

Multiple branches working towards one goal - Peace and Order across the Galaxy [Emperor's public Goal]
Multiple branches fighting each other like children - ???
Some Branches working together and others not - Imperial Remnants? [Some working towards the emperor's goal some working for there own goal?]

which one are we again.

Crazy Frog Reaction GIF

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Drama is good but sometimes people just take it outta hand and it just becomes pure toxicity....

Also I think Cheese and bacon balls are the best way to ingest cheese.

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1 hour ago, Miracle said:

So we gonna forget Parmigiano-Reggiano smh easily one of the best cheeses as it has many uses. But you are right it is pretty good cheese

my bad chief thats  good cheese also, mad respect

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