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4 minutes ago, Delta said:

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Jmans words as Tarkin: "We dont want sand being tracked onto the ship" 
Fences are also banned when not for proper fence things 

What I typed is re-wording of what he has said in a TS conversation

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Hello Imperial Gaming I am fully aware that I do not participate in the community all that much anymore, granted I still occasionally come on and play on the server whenever I am bored out of my min

Hard agree. Y'all need to realise that even though it's supposed to be an RP server, you have to acknowledge the fact it's a game. Some of you chuds forget that we're not emulating the canonical

Sticking to RP all the time 24/7 rips the enjoyment out of a game. I'm sure there are people on the server who really do love rping as a clerk and sitting at a desk for hours and shit. But people join regiments based on the unique roleplay AND the equipment supplied, only being able to use certain equipment at certain times is counter intuitive to fun being had on the server.

The most fun being had is when RP is distinctly enforced, just and underlining presence.

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23 hours ago, Yuri said:

What I typed is re-wording of what he has said in a TS conversation

what I typed is what I heard in rp from a meeting with Grand moff Tarkin

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On 5/11/2021 at 7:23 PM, Jman1308 said:

The sign currently says the following what more do you want me to add?

 

Explosive Ordnance Prohibition

Under directive of Governor Tarkin, Explosive Ordnance is prohibited indefinitely aboard Imperial Starships.

Being in breach of this directive will result in a charge of Treason.

Specialist Equipment Alleviation

Cloaking Devices and Aerial Jetpacks are now standard Authorization

Jugger's Laws

1. Shoot Fast

2. Eat Ass

3. Ignore Rule 1

4. Shoot Faster

5. Bigger Gun, Bigger Bullet.

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2 hours ago, Yuri said:

Jugger's Laws

1. Shoot Fast

2. Eat Ass

3. Ignore Rule 1

4. Shoot Faster

5. Bigger Gun, Bigger Bullet.

Buddy this is why nobody listens to your laws, even your own laws are fighting each other.

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On 5/11/2021 at 9:59 PM, TheApple said:

This is facts, anything that makes people laugh is outlawed my friend.

Too many poor decisions have made this server unenjoyable. The amount of people who take "Serious RP" seriously is anything but the vast majority, you're a joker if you think otherwise. Whoever's making some of these changes to the server can't actually believe they're doing a good job when a good amount of the community complains about the same shit. You'll know you've made a good change when half the server pop isn't sat staring at a wall afk.

Good changes are made all the time it's just the community doesn't match the direction of the server. Few years ago it was much more serious and staring AFK at a wall was a punishable offence that made shock Shepard all the afk people back to bunks. Since then the median serious has dropped off a cliff and now the "community" hates any attempt to return to the servers roots. Shit people argue about today is honestly astonishing.

You ask so why has the community driven the concept of serious RP off a metaphorical cliff? Who knows honestly otherwise management would of fixed it. I personally think it's the loss of very heavy handed leaders who weren't afraid to punish people. Those leaders actually instilled fear ( don't give me this "yuck serious RP larping shit" because your playing an RP server and that's the idea). These days you'll see either leaders who can't dish out punishment or who demonstrate a very low standard when it comes to RP. Another possible reason is the lack of interaction with the server from management. As a member of management I'll happily admit 80% of management are hands off the server and only stamp documents. @Wolf use to be active as fuck and people actually behaved when he was around otherwise they'd get a smack (even though he minged alot 😉). So management they don't really see the full affect of a proposal it just sounds good on paper. I could go on forever but this is enough for one post.

TLDR; You play on an RP server don't pull the "too serious" card otherwise your playing for the wrong reasons

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1 hour ago, Ragetank said:

the community doesn't match the direction of the server

This line makes zero sense to me, how can the community not match the direction the Server is going in, is it not the job of Management to direct the Server in the way the Community wants it to go? And later you speak about how Management are 80% hands off the Server and stamp documents, do you not feel that this is WHY the Server is going the direction you described? The reason the Server used to have heavy-handed leaders is because Management were hands on, and Management were the ones playing the Server daily and being in the trenches, rather than stamping documents and logging on to the Server for such a low time every Month.

Hard truths need to be faced, and its not the users and low ranking Staff Members who need to face them.

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23 minutes ago, Bailey said:

This line makes zero sense to me, how can the community not match the direction the Server is going in, is it not the job of Management to direct the Server in the way the Community wants it to go? And later you speak about how Management are 80% hands off the Server and stamp documents, do you not feel that this is WHY the Server is going the direction you described? The reason the Server used to have heavy-handed leaders is because Management were hands on, and Management were the ones playing the Server daily and being in the trenches, rather than stamping documents and logging on to the Server for such a low time every Month.

Hard truths need to be faced, and its not the users and low ranking Staff Members who need to face them.

It makes perfect sense just because the community has changed doesn't necessarily mean that management should agree with them. People like jman and gusky make huge changes to bring more RP to the server and its usually wildly unpopular or met with heavy criticism from the community because its too serious or just a change in general. There are many reasons why the server isn't going in the direction that we would love to steer it in. Sure management not being hands on is one of them but like I listed off its also a change in the player base, lack of serious leaders, general staleness of the gamemode etc etc. I'm not going to defend management and say that we cant be doing a better job because we certainly can. However times have changed and peoples priorities do too. To blame management for everything is naive however. Its a team effort and it takes passion and the want for change from the entire change from users to staff. I personally think that either people have misdirected passions or just lack thereof. A mindset that I see alot of people including myself falling into is "Well they dont care so why should I?" and I've seen that mindset throughout the entire community. From new players joining the server trying to do their best to roleplay and being shot down for actually doing roleplay to staff members (senior and junior) doing stupid shit which sets a low standard for the rest of the playerbase. 

I'm unsure what you were exactly trying to get across when you replied but I feel like we are all talking about the same thing just from different perspectives. Personally until I see passion at all levels (users, staff, management) to really change the server back to the serious rp state it use to be in it'll never get there regardless of how hard management, staff or users try. The damage is done already and if it never changes so be it but i'll always advocate for those who actually want to put passion into the gamemode and roleplay because thats what the golden era of IG was.

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3 minutes ago, Ragetank said:

It makes perfect sense just because the community has changed doesn't necessarily mean that management should agree with them. People like jman and gusky make huge changes to bring more RP to the server and its usually wildly unpopular or met with heavy criticism from the community because its too serious or just a change in general. There are many reasons why the server isn't going in the direction that we would love to steer it in. Sure management not being hands on is one of them but like I listed off its also a change in the player base, lack of serious leaders, general staleness of the gamemode etc etc. I'm not going to defend management and say that we cant be doing a better job because we certainly can. However times have changed and peoples priorities do too. To blame management for everything is naive however. Its a team effort and it takes passion and the want for change from the entire change from users to staff. I personally think that either people have misdirected passions or just lack thereof. A mindset that I see alot of people including myself falling into is "Well they dont care so why should I?" and I've seen that mindset throughout the entire community. From new players joining the server trying to do their best to roleplay and being shot down for actually doing roleplay to staff members (senior and junior) doing stupid shit which sets a low standard for the rest of the playerbase. 

I'm unsure what you were exactly trying to get across when you replied but I feel like we are all talking about the same thing just from different perspectives. Personally until I see passion at all levels (users, staff, management) to really change the server back to the serious rp state it use to be in it'll never get there regardless of how hard management, staff or users try. The damage is done already and if it never changes so be it but i'll always advocate for those who actually want to put passion into the gamemode and roleplay because thats what the golden era of IG was.

I whole heatedly agree with everything you said there except for the first sentence, but I think we'll have to agree to disagree in this regard.
People need a drive/passion to change the Server and move it towards a better state, but finding that passion and drive is extremely hard, just as you said, because people don't want to RP seriously and want to blow stuff up, get away with it and then when new user "X" comes along and sees that, they don't want to RP seriously because the guy fucking around looks like he's having more fun, so they do that, then they get warned and get fed up with the Server because the standard isn't set across everyone. That's something that I believe needs to be desperately looked at across all levels, its either everyone needs to be consistently serious RP'ing, or people need to be given far more leniency in what RP they choose to involve themselves in, its been a problem for a while and even goes back to IG's "golden age".

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41 minutes ago, Ragetank said:

The damage is done already and if it never changes so be it but i'll always advocate for those who actually want to put passion into the gamemode and roleplay because thats what the golden era of IG was.

Look I, and many people in the forums post, don't even play the server anymore and I can see why many people disagree with us. When I talk about this stuff, I speak about my experiences and what eventually caused me to leave. I agree, serious leaders are needed, but then there's bias rulings that also affect this stuff. Keep in mind that most higher members of the community are or were in ISB/COMPNOR, a regiment built off enforcing serious RP and punishing people for it (ie. a branch that makes RP off of stopping others enjoyment, which many COMPNOR have said to me before in the past). While I am not saying that it is the case, from an outsiders perspective, I can understand why many would think that, god knows I have at times. Yet not only that, but many would have long forgotten what its like being CL1-3 or even 4, along with the grind that many players are familiar with, and your first line just enforces that notion if you think you shouldn't evolve with the community, otherwise, why would people keep playing? This original decision that Jman has made just seems 100% unfair to the many who did the right thing, who follow the many strict rules that are enforced upon them, and honestly, there is not enough thanks to those people.

Again, I don't play the server anymore so my argument may have no merit and I agree with many of what you said, but may I remind you that in most cases, serious RP when not properly relegated can lead to pettiness and awry arguments. If people got along, then sure, serious RP is fine, but they don't. I'm sure I have no idea the amount of work management puts in, but I think some leadership needs to take a step back and recognise how much effort some of these people put in and why distancing from serious RP is important to keep people engaged and motivated in the server. 

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8 minutes ago, Braino said:

distancing from serious RP is important to keep people engaged and motivated in the server. 

If people don't want to play a serious rp server, they can go find another server that doesn't literally have serious RP in the title. If people want to come on the server to just fully fuck about with mates in a 3d environment then they'd be better off going and playing VR Chat.

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Just now, yeff said:

If people don't want to play a serious rp server, they can go find another server that doesn't literally have serious RP in the title

Are you saying that your time as Grand Inquisitor was all serious RP? I think you would agree that constant serious RP is exhausting and isn't fun when branches don't get along.

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Just now, Braino said:

Are you saying that your time as Grand Inquisitor was all serious RP? I think you would agree that constant serious RP is exhausting and isn't fun when branches don't get along.

Damn bro he do be right

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10 minutes ago, Braino said:

Are you saying that your time as Grand Inquisitor was all serious RP? I think you would agree that constant serious RP is exhausting and isn't fun when branches don't get along.

Absolutely not. My instances of very "non serious" rp as GI in my opinion came from a lack of proper repercussions for my actions at the time. I absolutely would agree that in my time as GI that I was exhausted, although that was mainly due to issues that came from wiltos and other things. As tank said below

2 hours ago, Ragetank said:

personally think it's the loss of very heavy handed leaders who weren't afraid to punish people.

Having been one of those leaders who didn't punish individuals in my regiments for their behaviour I'd have to agree. If I could go back in time I'd have instilled harsher punishments for those under my watch and acted quicker on the general behaviour of sith during my time as gi. However, I was incredibly scared at the time of loosing large amounts of people from my regiment if I'd implimented those punishments and then having to then focus on recruitment again instead of helping transition wiltos (which was later removed regardless) into sith properly which was a massive amount of work with the creation of tests and such. 

As for branch conflict, I 100% agree that when it happened as GI, I wanted to be lined up against a wall and shot instead of deal with it. It's painful and exhausting, but I also believe that having strong high up command that pushes for unity between IHC members is the key to fixing this.

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From my experience in the times when people choose not to seriously RP are when it is contained and away from everyone else. Like what was brought up before, ISB is renowned for being one of if not the most serious RP'd regiments on the server but even in ISB/COMPNOR there are times where serious RP is put to aside in times of low activity and no one is inside HQ for example we mess around a lot but no one not in ISB or COMPNOR would know that because it is kept away from everyone that may think badly of it.

There is a time and a place for none serious RP on the server and that is when the server is below 20 players or away from everyone else on the server so that no one may see it or be effected by it in anyway. Besides that it is serious RP at all times as it should be.

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3 hours ago, Ragetank said:

Good changes are made all the time it's just the community doesn't match the direction of the server. Few years ago it was much more serious and staring AFK at a wall was a punishable offence that made shock Shepard all the afk people back to bunks. Since then the median serious has dropped off a cliff and now the "community" hates any attempt to return to the servers roots. Shit people argue about today is honestly astonishing.

You ask so why has the community driven the concept of serious RP off a metaphorical cliff? Who knows honestly otherwise management would of fixed it. I personally think it's the loss of very heavy handed leaders who weren't afraid to punish people. Those leaders actually instilled fear ( don't give me this "yuck serious RP larping shit" because your playing an RP server and that's the idea). These days you'll see either leaders who can't dish out punishment or who demonstrate a very low standard when it comes to RP. Another possible reason is the lack of interaction with the server from management. As a member of management I'll happily admit 80% of management are hands off the server and only stamp documents. @Wolf use to be active as fuck and people actually behaved when he was around otherwise they'd get a smack (even though he minged alot 😉). So management they don't really see the full affect of a proposal it just sounds good on paper. I could go on forever but this is enough for one post.

TLDR; You play on an RP server don't pull the "too serious" card otherwise your playing for the wrong reasons

mmmm idk dude i actually used to have fun when i played in 2017

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6 minutes ago, cornelius said:

mmmm idk dude i actually used to have fun when i played in 2017

Same, and I'm STILL having fun even though I've left and rejoined many times thats crazy bro

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4 minutes ago, yeff said:

Absolutely not. My instances of very "non serious" rp as GI in my opinion came from a lack of proper repercussions for my actions at the time.

It was also fun not to RP seriously all the time, that combined with the fact that no one could punish you caused you to RP in a non-serious manner and you presumably enjoyed it, because that's what kept you playing the Server at the time. What people need to understand is that being serious at all times isn't fun at all, yes its immersive if everyone is, but when you get Navy with rocket launchers, or ISB with rotary cannons, or anything else that pulls you out of the immersion, like the shitty frames, the lag, etc. It makes it really hard for people to stay in character and roleplay up to a standard that no one is reaching at all times, because everyone fucks around, everyone minges, its just that certain people can get away with it because of their ingame rank, their staff rank or using the connections they have within the Community.

 

6 minutes ago, Hyperion said:

There is a time and a place for none serious RP on the server and those are below 20 players or away from everyone else on the server so that no one may see it or be effected by it in anyway. Besides that it is serious RP at all times as it should be.

That's the big problem though, not everyone has their own little hidey hole to fuck around in, ISB fucking around in COMPNOR is whatever because no one is allowed inside with threat of kidnapping, jail time, or being straight up murdered because of it. People always mention 'Oh well back in the day RP was great', bro, Wolf used to roll around with one shot fists, Whitey used to MassRDM the whole Server with his OP shotgun, Martibo had a one shot gun, lightsaber and would run Jedi Hunter Droid tryouts where literally everyone would die and be executed. We've literally never been serious RP, back in the day there were serious roleplayers, but they kept to their own business and ignored what they didn't want to be involved in. Then in the case that they were dragged into it, then they would either loosen up or stick to their serious RP, but they'd never seek out and try to stop this stuff.

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4 minutes ago, LilHavana said:

Same, and I'm STILL having fun even though I've left and rejoined many times thats crazy bro

May I point out that everyone that has disagreed primarily has been or is COMPNOR? Can you not see the problem if only one section of the server is enjoying serious RP this much? 

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18 minutes ago, Braino said:

May I point out that everyone that has disagreed primarily has been or is COMPNOR? Can you not see the problem if only one section of the server is enjoying serious RP this much? 

What does COMPNOR have to do with this? I get that a lot of old players that have left the community have a bone to pick with COMPNOR, hell I don't even like COMPNOR that much but I don't see any connection between COMPNOR and this. Havana doesn't like COMPNOR either in fact he's got a perma blacklist from ISB for posting a document about purge troopers conduct as a regiment in OOC that he wasn't supposed to have because he didn't like how COMPNOR was handling it. Neither of us have any love lost towards COMPNOR so I don't see why mentioning that we've previously been within their regiments has any relevance.

I've frequently disagreed with COMPNOR both in the past and recently so I don't believe that my beliefs has anything to do with having been in one of the 4 major branches of the server. I'd say i've enjoyed my time outside of the associated regiment of COMPNOR as well has been when I've actually enjoyed the server most as well.

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20 minutes ago, Braino said:

May I point out that everyone that has disagreed primarily has been or is COMPNOR? Can you not see the problem if only one section of the server is enjoying serious RP this much? 

This is speaking for me, I can't speak for other ex-COMPNORies. My history in COMPNOR doesn't have a single thing to do with my enjoyment on the server, nor has it influenced how I enjoy RP. For a majority of my time playing this server, I've been in army. Me stating that I enjoy the server, as I did in 2017, also has nothing to do with COMPNOR. If one section is enjoying the server more than others, then maybe they're actually doing something that attracts the right people...but even then compnor hasn't been relevant or proactive for a while.

 

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Also, what yeff said.

 

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3 minutes ago, LilHavana said:

This is speaking for me, I can't speak for other ex-COMPNORies. My history in COMPNOR doesn't have a single thing to do with my enjoyment on the server, nor has it influenced how I enjoy RP. For a majority of my time playing this server, I've been in army. Me stating that I enjoy the server, as I did in 2017, also has nothing to do with COMPNOR. If one section is enjoying the server more than others, then maybe they're actually doing something that attracts the right people...but even then compnor hasn't been relevant or proactive for a while.

 

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Also, what yeff said.

 

Absolutely and I do apologise, but you do have to point out the potential bias thought in these arguments. Most of compnors RP is very one-sided and is built off enforcing serious RP at all times, even when it is not hurting anyone. That doesn't mean what they're doing is right, if anything it's just selfish roleplay. The incidents with sith and ISB were fun, but when serious RP was put in play, people resolved to being petty and making large as documents to have people removed. Yeff said before about having leadership that can unite the other branches, but that will never happen, because no one respects each other enough to put their pride on the line because it's serious RP and so people think "my character is super smart" or "I need to act this way because my character would".

Fliqqs was the best emperor we have ever had, but not because he was super immersive in his role, its because he was fun and didn't do serious RP all the time, so most people liked him and his decisions, unlike the current decision that started this whole thing. That was the "golden age", people just need to let each other have fun and mind their own business.

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