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Hi, I'm Kamelieon, I joined on August 17, 2017, and since then have had 8months and 2 weeks breaktime.
I joined this place having the most joyous time of my life, really living by the server slogan 'your second home'.
I'd spend most of my hours every day after school playing and almost my whole day on the weekend.

I've left the server twice, the first time was because I wanted to experience other games, which went nowhere cause I didn't have games.
But the second time, was because of the boredom that fills the game, I don't know if it's just me though?
Upon joining back after my first leave I realised the rise of seriousness, the server really started living up to its "Serious RP" status.

    HERES MY REVIEW REVIEW    

The server is definitely not the same as it was when I first joined, because it was fun back then. Yes, I get ERROR 404's when I try to find fun here.
Since day one ISB have been the party poopers but when they shut down parties it was pretty chill.
Now it's pretty serious, it's like 90% of the server is ISB, well they try to be. Everyone wants to make shit, their problem.

Why do I get military personnel constantly interrogating me in hallways for anything, excuse me but you're not ISB or security.
I think a problem that has caused this is Shock promotion system, causing hunger for AOS or its just some weird thing you want to cuff people.
The hunger for KOS has also increased, please go play a shooting game such as Fortnite or Call of Duty :)

AOS' are literally handed out so easily these days, anything you do in public will result in an AOS. I see it as AOS - NAME - HAVING FUN
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If you have too much fun you will be demoted (translation: If you have x AOS' you will be punished heavily).

Dude, I can't even express my opinions anymore, y'all are way too sensitive, the littlest things HURT people.
And because people are too sensitive, I've hurt someone OOC which will apparently have an effect on me In Character.

There is just too much policing, I'm not having fun anymore and now I'm really questioning why I came back?

    MY CONCLUSION    

Yes, I'm salty as fuck because it's just constant shit, but hey the downvote button is there.
Feel free to remove this post because I'm 'toxic' or whatever but it'll just prove my point where I said: "y'all are way too sensitive".

Yah I think as some people have said, its time for server change, which means a change in timeline.
Dude if the Empire is gone, I will not have to worry about these high standards on a game. Please stop trying to make it like we are in the military IRL.

I think Storm Trooper Private sounds good for me in the meantime because that is where the fun is.

 

Afterall, its just a game man.

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I disagree with your post, being someone who has been around for a fair chunk of time, through Clone Wars, through Santos, I'll have been here for two years next Month and I've been just about everything there is to be.

This is just my opinion, but I think the Server is in a good place at the moment, while there are definitely things that need to be worked on. However, this happens with every Server and every community, players and people change over time, communities become new and have new values, ideas and things they'd like to enforce. Back in the day, you're right, 'fun' RP was a little more open, but ISB had way more power to PK whoever they wanted since they were all just Super Admins.
However, this fun RP is, in essence, not RP everyone wants to take part in, stuff like infecting people with diseases, or having catgirls, or trying to kidnap Charli Damelio can be fun for the people involved, but can be annoying to deal with and trying to work around for people not involved within it. The Server is a SeriousRP Server, and while we do have a few things that take people out of immersion, such as Climb SWEP, Inferno Squad, Thrawn and the Inquisitors together, etc. etc. its for the sake of the Server and is a necessary evil.

I think that you can definitely have some fun RP going on, but its something that the people around you need to be fine with, or understand not to get involved with it if they want fully SeriousRP, which many people do. I like SeriousRP, its fun, slow paced at times, but very fun. I myself aren't the most SeriousRP'er in the world, but that's the point, I RP seriously where I need to and I kick it with the blokes in my regiment (shout out to @Vadrian @Jalex @Planz @Neptune @Greyback @Elbows @Shepard and Kden who hasn't made a forums account) when I need to as well. Being someone who never RP's and gets in trouble then goes "Wtf, I'm just having fun." is bad for the Server (not saying you do this), as well as, being someone who is always in RP and is a hardass isn't good for the Server either because no one is going to like you.

The Server is much the same as it was back then, trust me. However, people are no longer content with just standing around waiting for an Event, they want to RP, they want to be involved in places and they want to expand their RP. My regiment has a 5000 word MOS Handbook, ISC have an entire pilot license system, medics have an MRD system (headed by yourself), ISB have always had a lot of RP and its just that everyone else is finally catching up to them that it feels like everyone is becoming like ISB and checking on others. Its the Imperial Era, you've got to be watching your back and looking at others, you never know when a knife is being pulled and the person is taking your position.

Also, I think the whole part about you 'not being to express your opinion' is a tad harsh considering what was said in the Discord and what I've seen, that wasn't your opinion, that was blatant disrespect and completely unnecessary, all things considered.

The Server is doing fine, everyone is in a manic state at the moment due to COVID-19 and the change in lifestyle, as well as the amount of time spent at home bored shitless, school is now going back, work is going back, restrictions are being eased (except for victoria, rip the real boys) and people are finding that they don't have enough time for the Server, people see the pop slightly lower some nights than it has been the past few Months and immediately think the Server is going into the toilet and look for the reasons why.

Everyone just needs to sit back, sip some tea and just enjoy themselves, do fulfilling RP for yourself and others, and if you think it might get you PK'd, speak to ISB OOC, they're not going to say no when you say "Hey man, I wanna do this, but if I get caught, is it cool if its just a name PK?". Just because something might get you in trouble doesn't mean you should completely avoid it on the Server, enjoy yourself.

Sorry if I went off-topic a little, just wanted to address some stuff.

Love you all, IG is still the second home that it claims to be.

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To be entirely honest, I agree with some points you've raised. I believe you can definitely still have fun on the server. It's about how you do it though. So for instance, I believe in most circumstances fun / messing around should be fine and if anything maybe an in role-play warn is given to said person instead of an AOS / KOS.

The part where you claim the whole server acting like ISB or trying to impose like ISB, I believe this is entirely true. However, the reasoning for this is the new COMPNOR branch which I'm sure you've heard of. With this has come more security branches and more discipline. Additionally, where you say everyone tries to make each issue theirs, I can agree to a certain extent with this. But, from experience, most of the time these situations are dealt with and the party that may not need to be involved is removed from the situation. (Literally happened yesterday with INQ, Nova/IHC & ISB)

Another point you raised was the server population being sensitive to constructive criticism or generalised advice. I suppose if you really want to go deep with this thread you could say the world in general is this way. Society as a whole has become extremely sensitive and no one can take jokes or even simple irony. It's an issue that has only become recent with all the different cultures clashing with ideologies and ways of life. (Not going to go more in detail with this, as you said some may get offended) xD

Other than that Kamelieon, you've always been a good friend of mine on the server and if you want to chat feel free too! I'm more than happy too.

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I’m just tired of petty arguments over things like pilot licenses or *insert generic document number 47*
 

My activity has dipped greatly over the past 2 months as everyday I’d come on, mind my own business until some 15 year old tries to pick an argument over a minute detail that realistically doesn’t matter. I absolutely love the people in this community but the server has just lost its spark, maybe that’s just on my end, maybe it isn’t.

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1 hour ago, Rivers said:

mind my own business until some 15 year old tries to pick an argument over a minute detail that realistically doesn’t matter

We’ve got a lot of younger players here, let’s not use age as as insult, we’re better than that.

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I thought I was the only one thinking this 6 months ago. Server felt different round Christmas. The vibe was and still is just off.

 

#Bringback2018-2019IG

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5 hours ago, Rivers said:

I absolutely love the people in this community but the server has just lost its spark, maybe that’s just on my end, maybe it isn’t.

You coudlnt have said it better. Its exactly like that for me :(

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Look, I haven't been around to see what the server has become, or what it's currently become. My experience reading the changes that have been made, in theory sound quite nice. Buying your own ammunition, adding an important aspect to the credit system. Then you think deeper about certain stuff like "Why is the Military forcing me to buy my own ammo?". Anyway, I agree with a lot of your points, the server when I played, became more strict. Hell, to even have some fun I went through 28 Names in like 3 Months. The amount of people, who think they're Ranger Rick, and are about to save the whole empire, by bossing people around on the server cause they recently got promoted to Warrant Officer II, was one of the most annoying parts of the server. The vocal minority, who reached a higher power status, thought they were top shit, like no brother, no one thinks your some mad cool kid because you are a Master Seargant on an RP Server. The jokes, I also agree with, people can't take one. The amount of people, that pulled me into a sit for clearly a joke, I couldn't even count (Still never got a warn though). I guess you could say generic meme "Damn Kids, can't take a joke", which is a stupid way to think about it, but the server did feel like that and was one of the reasons I left. Imperial Gaming, has fundementally shifted, from what it was in late 2017- eary 2018, is it my belief the server felt more fun back then...yes. Did you have a more relaxed rule set...kind of. Were people more chill....100%

 

Also what is with this economy function...Are the Stormtroopers saving money, in their Super Annuation account, trading items, for the highest possible value. Are they planning a holiday on Jakku, and they need to earn more money? Is the server gonna begin going into recession due to people not stimulating the economy through consumption? Are you going to have an inbuilt inflation function? Sounds cool on paper, but this is a GMOD server, not the Australian Economy. 

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13 hours ago, Auzii said:

The part where you claim the whole server acting like ISB or trying to impose like ISB, I believe this is entirely true. However, the reasoning for this is the new COMPNOR branch which I'm sure you've heard of.

Nah I meant that everyone that is non ISB and non security are trying to be, I’ve found I get far more problems with people who are not ISB questioning me on their concern for security. I barely even notice y’all, you’ve got a luxurious head quarters to hide in.

9 hours ago, Rivers said:

15 year old tries to pick an argument over a minute detail that realistically doesn’t matter.

I myself am 15 and totally understand your point of view, I would argue that it’s people 14 and lower but I understand that you may not notice a big difference. Kids will make stupid comments, blurting out things before thinking, as the undereducated humans we are.

9 hours ago, Rivers said:

has just lost its spark, maybe that’s just on my end, maybe it isn’t.

Not just you, I was expecting to get downvoted and that but I think all the oldies have really felt it.

14 hours ago, Bailey said:

through Clone Wars, through Santos, I'll have been here for two years next Month and I've been just about everything there is to be.

This is a small point from myself but I feel this statement just answers itself (why you’re not bored), you’ve been in the other servers along the way, I have always been an Imperial player circling these empty grey hallways.

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11 hours ago, Kamelieon said:

Nah I meant that everyone that is non ISB and non security are trying to be, I’ve found I get far more problems with people who are not ISB questioning me on their concern for security. I barely even notice y’all, you’ve got a luxurious head quarters to hide in.

As someone who has been in ISB for 50+ days, I can't say that I haven't noticed this. There have been a few times when people have tried to insert themselves into ISB matters despite being IC completely unqualified. I personally don't agree some of your other statements, I would just like to say that having access to the shock arrest records, I can tell you right now that fewer AOS's are being placed now than they were a few months ago. While this could be attributed to the influx from COVID-19, after checking the records back from 2018-2019, it is apparent that during those times AOS's were placed at a higher rate then they are now. 

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I definitely agree with a lot of the points you've made, the server has changed a lot and gotten more serious. 

 

However, there are still a lot of fun and non-serious moments on the server from time to time.

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13 minutes ago, Curze said:

how to make the server fun again - have an event server (yes exactly like that other community)

I don't think that's going to make the server 'fun' again, but I don't see a problem with an Event Server. @Ragetank

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49 minutes ago, Bailey said:

I don't think that's going to make the server 'fun' again, but I don't see a problem with an Event Server. @Ragetank

I mean, one argument could be that it would be more fun to not have the main server crash when doing epic off ship events, instead simply transferring to the other server which is already up and running smoothly. 

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54 minutes ago, Lars said:

I mean, one argument could be that it would be more fun to not have the main server crash when doing epic off ship events, instead simply transferring to the other server which is already up and running smoothly. 

Oh definitely, it would make that part of the Server more fun / enjoyable, but I don't think an Event Server is going to be the quick fix some people feel like it will be. Fun comes from what you do on the Server / what you wanna achieve.

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That is one hell of a review. Certainly all reviews are bias but especially with a server like this it's all down to your own experience. I can't say I have ever really had a bad time on the server but in someone elses eyes I could be one of the problems. In the end it's all down to the different POV's.

 

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I have to agree with this post, the server just feels more restrictive than ever before and I've recently found myself having less and less motives to play, having the longest burnout yet despite the fact that I should be really happy in the position I have. The only enjoyment I've had around the server (without RP to do) was my interactions with Kristofer as it was lighthearted banter and fun, however since then it's just been standing around and not really seeing much new stuff going on. I would rather play a server thats more fun rather than more immersive, but before you tell me to switch to another server, IG has done serious RP well before anyways and still felt immersive. Definately some points to be taken into consideration to make things better before they become worse, to benefit everyone.

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9 hours ago, Kamelieon said:

 

@Bailey @Kamelieon

That is an excellent point. I have been playing on this serer since Jan 2017. I been through so much but it always comes back to the fucking grey hallways and now more than ever people dont speak to you. No one speaks. As @Auzii said everyone for at least 6-8 months now is sucking up to ISB and tries to be ISB. Everyone fucking wants to be the centre of attention and everyone wants to look cool within ISB. I have been in ISB ( admittedly for only a week because I accused the Emperor of insurance fraud) but people suck up to ISB. Everyone is either some type of security battalion now, theres like 200 death troops and 1000000 shock and everyone is just trying to arrest people or be so strict about everything. In 2018, the role play was still immersive and serious but people are taking it now like it was a fucking military position which it isnt. I was in air force cadets for 3 months and nearly 3 years in Regular Army Cadets and none of the NCOs or officers ever fucking treated military cadets as seriously as Imperial gaming officers do ( that should say something huh). The server used to be a fun rp server with rules and laws but now everyone has a fucking stick up their ass and uses their position like their own job. Also, like I said before there is no fucking interaction everyone just stands around in hallways or hiding in fancy bunks or offices where no one can speak to you. They dont speak to you because they see you as a low rank and think your a idiot or if they do speak to you they try to AOS or they take you to ISB. The amount of times ive seen this happen to people blew my mind. People have to realise that it is a serious RP but it is also a GAME. If people have more adventures and more spontaneous events like in 2018 and 2019 it wont feel like hallway walking simulator. The server feels stale, like a old piece of bread. Everyone is constantly trying to become more and more important and they believe that they need to be super duper serious in every situation which makes everyone that does this seem like a tight ass and dull. These are just my opinions  but dont get me wrong. I love IG and everyone in it.

 

@Welly- also welly is right, playing on the server feels like your in authoritarian Argentina in the fucking 1970s

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11 hours ago, Bibleman said:

also welly is right, playing on the server feels like your in authoritarian Argentina in the fucking 1970s

The award for the most exaggerated comparison to the server goes to you.

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15 hours ago, Bibleman said:

-everyone for at least 6-8 months now is sucking up to ISB and tries to be ISB. Everyone fucking wants to be the centre of attention and everyone wants to look cool within ISB. I have been in ISB ( admittedly for only a week because I accused the Emperor of insurance fraud) but people suck up to ISB.

I agree with the statement that people try to be ISB, I've witnessed it first-hand, and very few things on the server are more agitating than that. Looking cool within ISB? Definitely not, no one in ISB does something for the sake of looking cool - Yeff couldn't be cool if he tried (<3). In regards to being the center of attention, this impression is generally given by the regiment because their tasks are very role-playing heavy. They have a diverse range of scenarios that they're trained to handle, which lands them in the eyes of other players. Now, sucking up to ISB? I don't think I've ever witnessed someone suck up to the Bureau. More often than not, individuals attempt to undermine the regiment as opposed to "sucking up" to them. Your post seems to focus on having too many security personnel, which really shouldn't be an issue. A server's fun capacity isn't determined by what regiments people enjoy. It's the role-play and opportunities associated with the regiment. Having a player base that enjoys the security regiment play-style shouldn't be, and isn't an issue. At that point, it's just a lack of respect for other peoples interests.

 

What I do agree with, however, is that people are really sensitive these days. Just from my perspective, players can sometimes view in-character arguments as a personal attack. RP is sometimes ruined by this mentality, sometimes someone will break off from an RP situation just to throw an AOS at them. Personally, I'd prefer if players wouldn't immediately slam an AOS down at the slightest hint of disrespect, instead trying pursue the opportunity for more RP, get creative and throw some shade.

 

Just my take on it :D

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As someone who has been in ISB for 550 days (God help me) and have experience first-hand on everything ISB has to offer for the past year and half, I can confirm that there are many on the server who try to be ISB and get into other people's business (Including ISB's business). I've witnessed this on many different occasions ranging from NCO personnel from regiments to even high command. I've seen this in the past with Shock when they tried to begin a Military Intelligence regiment, investigating members within the military. That got immediately shut down by ISB. This issue had also arisen when the new COMPNOR regiments were introduced and when many, including those within COMPNOR, believe that COMPNOR = ISB. They're not. 

 

The server is very-very sensitive recently. It's almost difficult for me to RP effectively as Director Krennic or a member of the ISB. Our regiment is built around writing documents against other players and making sure all personnel behave accordingly - which is why many people say ISB are the 'Fun Police'. As of recently, a lot of players take things OOC. Mostly if things don't go their way. RP has not been the same ever since every little negative thing gets brought to a staff sit and eventually voided. Many forget that this server is a role-play server. That means every single RP action we take will result in some sort of RP reaction. If you mess up and face RP consequences, don't immediately take it to a staff sit because it's all RP. As Director Krennic, I fully expect to get punished in-character for all the dodgy things I do in-character ranging from killing an entire regiment to blatantly murdering two generals, and if I do I always keep things within RP unless absolutely necessary. 

 

Went a bit off-topic. But that's my opinion on this whole thing.

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On 6/21/2020 at 9:25 PM, Kamelieon said:

If you have too much fun you will be demoted

Awkward Look Monkey Puppet | Know Your Meme

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32 minutes ago, Kristofer said:

That means every single RP action we take will result in some sort of RP reaction. If you mess up and face RP consequences, don't immediately take it to a staff sit because it's all RP.

I can't stress this enough. People nowadays don't realise as much, that once something happens in RP, it's best to be kept in RP. I've see it from all kinds of people in the Community, ranging from staff to users, but trying to get RP voided is the worst approach possible. If someone is doing something wrong, all that you don't like, there is always also a good RP approach to take in response to it. People just tend to give up very quickly.

I think if you go get results in RP rather then taking stuff OOC it will almost always be more satisfying and a better result. I've had people take sketchy stuff I've done OOCly before, and rather then me getting PK'ed or Demoted, it was all just voided.

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Star Wars RP is one of those things that's always been a fine line between a casual FPS, and an actual MMO. It's never really been solidified in any particular genre apart from "GMod RP", purely because the roleplay aspect of it allows for virtually anything to happen at any given time. What I will say, is that everybody's playstyle is different. I'd be lying if I said that their characters, whilst in-character, aren't inspired on / draw from their own IRL personalities. I know that I do.

When I first joined IG in late 2017, I can confirm that what you say about old IG is true. It was a lot more casual, chill, laidback... It was a fun experience. That's not to say you could just run around casually screaming "Death Star!" down the hallways, but you could, well, have fun. Upon rejoining IG a few months ago, I can definitely confirm that the experience has changed. The Serious RP of the server has really begun to develop in full-strength, particularly with all voice chat now being considered as in-character, it's now difficult to discern the difference between whether somebody's actually saying something in-character, or if they're saying it OOC, which is where I think a lot of the accusations about 'personal attacks' are coming from.

Whilst there is no particular remedy for this, at least not without putting the server's currently good place at risk, I will say this. Star Wars RP, for me at least, is an experience. At the end of the day, when I come onto the server, I don't come on just to roleplay. I come on to meet new people, get to know them, actually talk with them and enjoy being around them, and then maybe go on to use that to create something truly distinctive in-character. It's all a part of this unique camaraderie that SWRP brings out in all of us, that at the end of it all, we're all physical human beings sitting behind a computer screen enjoying a universe created by two simple words. Our regiments are our family, this community is our home, and I think it's safe to say that a lot of very real blood, sweat and tears are spent when it comes to maintaining either their position, their regiment, or their OOC reputation as either an individual or a Staff Member, let alone even running the server.

“It's a dangerous business, Frodo, going out your door. You step onto the road, and if you don't keep your feet, there's no knowing where you might be swept off to.”
- J.R.R. Tolkien

Star Wars RP isn't just a video game. It is an experience. It's a place where people like you and I can come to escape from reality, and do or be essentially anything you want to. It's a place that you can call your second home; to hang out with other like-minded people to enjoy the one thing that brings them together, especially during a time that threatens to push people apart. It's a place where race, gender, religion and politics are completely ignored, and the day-to-day events of life are put asunder to the side... Where you can meet new people and create new memories. People from all over the world, they come together and they live for this sort of thing. Take one look at the IG veterans; or the lurkers like me who have been around but have never truly, properly, really settled down; or the completely utterly dedicated obssessors like @Bailey who grind, tooth and nail, to make a place like this mean something so much more than just what it is on the surface.

The very definition of community resides here, and at the end of the day that's a hell of a lot more important than security regiments going around abusing their powers. I know some of you might not completely appreciate this post or see things the way I do; I don't blame you. Some of you might not have had the same experience that I have, seen the things I've seen, but a place like this is one of the few things that matters in this day and age. And not just Imperial Gaming... Several other servers and communities are just as important as ours.

But anyway, I digress. Everybody's experience is different. You might have more lows than highs, or hold specific grudges that impact on your gameplay, but whatever it might be I hold no judgement. However, I don't think that passing judgement to other individuals, for living out their experience, is the best way of going about it. What I would suggest to you, and anyone reading this, is to make an experience out of their experience. Try not to take petty things like AOSes to heart. Live out the moment as they may have intended, but create your own bit of RP around it. This is a roleplay server, after all. You are as much your own person as much as they are theirs. 

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29 minutes ago, Greyback said:

@Bailey who grind, tooth and nail, to make a place like this mean something so much more than just what it is on the surface.

You gon make me tear up.

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