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Myself and certain other members of the community have felt that the actions of Wingza (Staff Manager of Imperial Gaming) have been constituted as abusive of his staff powers. 
As a result this report has been gathered and submitted.
There is no recommended punishment - the main purpose of this report is to ensure that a situation like the one that occurred on 18th does not happen again.

 

This report initially contained approximately 2 hours of footage, this has been narrowed down to 4 videos, of which only 3 are directly related to the incident of the 18th concerning Wingza.

 

Date of Events: 18/02/2020
Date of the Extras Clip #2: 17/02/2020

Main Individual(s) Involved: 
- Eren / Captain 62-SKO Eren
- Bailey / B. Iroh
- Wingza / Grand Inquisitor
- Misahu / Lieutenant Colonel 62-SKO Misahu

 

Chapter 1:

This video will contextualise the situation and validate the AOS.

This is done so we can proceed on to the actual report, since the situation and report itself stemmed off of this catalyst (the AOS).

 

 

Chapter 2:

Each point will be assessed and explained within the video.

The objective/overall subject can be seen in the bottom left hand of the screen to help with understanding the flow of the sequential events.

 

Timestamps:

Part 2 - The Bribe

  • 1:10 - List of Offences
  • 2:38 - Bribery / FailRP
  • 4:07 - Explanation of FailRP
  • 4:20 - Explanation of Corruption

 

Part 3 - The Cloak

  • 4:33 - List of Offences
  • 5:26 - Failure to locate Iroh (due to Wingza giving him Cloak)
  • 6:10 - GI going through with the bribe and attempting to hide Iroh by getting SK to leave
  • 7:12 - Logs // Explanation of why he shouldn't be handing Cloak in this situation

 

Part 4 - The Capture

  • 7:30 - List of Offences
  • 7:41 - Iroh has changed their name and utilising cloak/COMPFORCE armour to escape (OOC done through changing his model and giving cloak)
  • 7:58 - GI exits CFP HQ hiding Iroh behind him (in accordance to the corrupt RP/bribe) and then acts like he did not know Iroh was hiding behind him, cloaked.
  • 8:40 - SK Commander tells the Grand Inquisitor that he is suspect in aiding the Assistant Manager in escaping his AOS.

 

 

Watch this video before watching Chapter 3 to understand why/how the breach occurred:

 

 

Chapter 3:

  • 0:01 - Brig is breached by Inquisitorius
  • 0:28 - GI asks for door to be opened
  • 0:48 - Explanation of Breach // Destruction of Brig Door/Lockdown System
  • 1:46 - Argument between SK and INQ
  • 2:24 - Notified Misahu that the Brig door has been broken.
  • 2:45 - Greyback and other Shock subordinates explain how the Inquisitors were able to gain entry lockdown.
  • 3:15 - The Explanation of how they entered.
  • 3:20 - Explaining the situation to zaspan
  • 4:24 - List of Offences

 

 

First clip is INQ attempting to obstruct justice - Reason this is included is provided in the video.

Second clip is unrelated to the incident on the 18th, however was included nonetheless as another example of past concerns SK has had with Wingza.

 

 

 

One last comment, this Staff Report does not aim to have anyone removed or punished unless necessary.

As stated previously - the main point of this report is to ensure an abuse like this does not repeat itself and additionally to inform people of what happened since I was being asked about it.

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I don't see how Wingza accepting a Bribe in character via /me is abuse of Staff Power.

Also in the Second Video at around 2 Minutes and 8 Seconds you can be seen abusing Third person camera to see into the CFP HQ. Personally I believe that is abusive and exploitative of in game mechanics.

 

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I would like to mention relating to Wingza opening that door, I doubt he intended to break the door fully. In terms of him getting in the Grand Inquisitor has an infinite amount of ways within RP to open the door. 
It also seems strange to me that there is no way to open this door from the outside, There were two CL6s and one CL5 and none of them were able to enter as the brig was for some reason designed this way.

Bottom line the Grand Inquisitor forcing entry into the Brig is in no way fail RP.

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My problem with this is that Wingza went out of his way to not only remodel and then cloak the CFP member but then continues to attempt to break out the prisoner. In character and out of character there was no reason to do this other than to save him from standing in the brig for five minutes for something that was appropriate for him to be AOSed for in the first place. 

Honestly just want to see why Wingza has done this as it was never really necessary.

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@Rickle you've completely disregarded that as an imperial inquisitor you have no use for money of any value, therefor taking a bribe is just shit RP. The Detention Block is controlled by a control panel and we almost always have a man on it, so using a staff tool and spawning a 2nd option to enter is abuse, this had also made it to where if no one was outside then we could get stuck in there and not be able to attend to crucial duties therefore ruining RP and the regiments reputation for fast response time. 

 

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1 minute ago, xZyllr said:

@Rickle you've completely disregarded that as an imperial inquisitor you have no use for money of any value, therefor taking a bribe is just shit RP. The Detention Block is controlled by a control panel and we almost always have a man on it, so using a staff tool and spawning a 2nd option to enter is abuse, this had also made it to where if no one was outside then we could get stuck in there and not be able to attend to crucial duties therefore ruining RP and the regiments reputation for fast response time. 

 

Rickle said "I don't see how Wingza accepting a Bribe in character via /me is abuse of Staff Power." he is correct, it is not Staff Abuse he never dismissed that it is not failed roleplay however, He also did not say that the "entry" was not staff abuse all he commented on was the Bribe, you have taken what he said and interpreted in your own way, please dont go having a go at someone if you dont understand what they are saying, not nice. 

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Before this thread goes into an all out war, despite who's side you're on PLEASE let's all just provide a valid point that doesn't take things out of context and has evidence provided here to support it, otherwise this is just going to make this topic very confusing very fast. Make sure you read the person's post and think about what they meant fully and as stated by Wolf, please don't start insulting each other here, there's no need for any type of community devide here.

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Just now, xZyllr said:

@Rickle you've completely disregarded that as an imperial inquisitor you have no use for money of any value, therefor taking a bribe is just shit RP. The Detention Block is controlled by a control panel and we almost always have a man on it, so using a staff tool and spawning a 2nd option to enter is abuse, this had also made it to where if no one was outside then we could get stuck in there and not be able to attend to crucial duties therefore ruining RP and the regiments reputation for fast response time. 

 

I wouldn't even consider an inquisitor accepting bribes FailRP, as seen in the comics inquisitors would indulge themselves in their downtime and often disregard the Inquisitorius' rules. (Leading them to be killed but the point still stands.)

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A lot of the stuff said is mainly IC and stuff that would only warrant a warning but approving the use cloak and the change of someone's player model is wrong, you have given someone a unfair advantage to get out of a situation.  This a obvious abuse of power and clear bias since you were involved in the situation. 

The keycard is also another abuse of power, yes there are many ways in RP to open the brig door but spawning in a keycard scanner for you to use is wrong.

I will not be recommending a punishment but instead say that this is very disappointing 

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22 minutes ago, Rickle said:

I don't see how Wingza accepting a Bribe in character via /me is abuse of Staff Power.

 

It's FailRP which a member of management shouldn't be doing at all. As Eren stated, the GI would definitely not take credits as a bribe. 

 

23 minutes ago, Rickle said:

Also on the Second Video at around 2 Minutes and 8 Seconds you can be seen abusing Third person camera to see into the CFP HQ. If that isn't abuse I don't know what is.

 

This has nothing to do with the staff report. I agree that Eren is using it in a bad way but that can be dealt with at a later date. Right now we are talking about the issue with Wingza quite obviously abusing his power to benefit him and his friends. I agree with Eren here as the evidence confirms all of his points.

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35 minutes ago, Rickle said:

I don't see how Wingza accepting a Bribe in character via /me is abuse of Staff Power.

Also in the Second Video at around 2 Minutes and 8 Seconds you can be seen abusing Third person camera to see into the CFP HQ. Personally I believe that is abusive and exploitative of in game mechanics.

 

Rickle summed it up perfectly, i dont think Wingza was at any point abusing his powers in these videos, I also think that abusing the third person camera to see through walls/doors is also against the rules..

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25 minutes ago, Joel said:

My problem with this is that Wingza went out of his way to not only remodel and then cloak the CFP member but then continues to attempt to break out the prisoner. In character and out of character there was no reason to do this other than to save him from standing in the brig for five minutes for something that was appropriate for him to be AOSed for in the first place. 

Honestly just want to see why Wingza has done this as it was never really necessary.

Well said Joel. I will keep my response to a minimum as I was present at the time of these events occurring. Wingza you are a great guy and you are doing well at being a Staff Manager, however I believe this may be a slip on your behalf. Eren has provided ample evidence to support his claims. Wingza I would also like to see your side of the story so there is further elaboration and understanding within this discussion.

I will be leaving my response at that

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5 minutes ago, Neptune said:

It's FailRP which a member of management shouldn't be doing at all. As Eren stated, the GI would definitely not take credits as a bribe. 

Making my very small comment on this, yes, he could absolutely take bribes as there is little to no evidence provided to say that he wouldn't. It could easily fit in Inquisitor/Sith RP. 

On another note, at some point a shock trooper says that I was on their side of the argument. Absolutely not true and, if anything, I believe both sides could've dealt with the issue better. 

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A couple of things to note-

  • Why would the Grand Inquisitor care about an Administrative Manager from the CFP so as to prevent (her) from being arrested? In RP this does not make any sense.
  • As stated by others it is FailRP for the Grand Inquisitor to accept a bribe to assist hiding the AOS'd individual, and in relation to the above point as well as this particular set of circumstances there is no logical reason for him to do so.
  • Staff Abuse as noted by changing B. Iroh's playermodel & giving him cloak; attempting an assist with 'escorting' the AM out of the CFP Quarters, as noticed by Misahu when he walked into an invisible target. From an RP perspective, this is still Fail RP by the GI as he still assisted in preventing the arrest/accepting the bribe; regardless of B. Iroh's intent to RP to avoid arrest.
  • Staff Abuse via using a keypad to open the door, thus breaking the door in the process which as previously stated prevents the 62nd SK Company from effectively manning the Detention Block Checkpoint. This further leaves us open to any further breaches by EC's or otherwise and may also leave us locked in the Detention Block as the keypad is only one-sided.
    • Yes I understand that this could be seen as 'RP' for the GI to open the door, but use of a keypad should not be necessary. There are multiple RP ways of breaking entry into a highly-guarded facility (force-powers, lightsabers, etc.)
    • In addition, why would the GI clearly breach the front door but not the others as later seen in the video? If he clearly, in-RP, possessed the ability to do so, why would he simply not breach the other doors where he requested the SK to open them?

Personally in my experience as both a high-RP character and Moderator on other servers, I have never seen anything of the like and, if necessary, I would have gone to the appropriate measures to enforce appropriate RP and to prevent the Staff Abuse from happening, should it have ever arised. Therefore, the Staff Report in question is, in my opinion, a valid report with multiple claims that can and should be addressed for the betterment of not only the parties involved, but for the entire server as a whole. In-character or not, this is a situation that needs to be taken higher and dealt with appropriately. I should restate however that that is, and from my own personal experience as both a high-RP character & Server Moderator, my own personal opinion. The points I have made, however, remain fact.

Ultimately this was a situation that did not need to be escalated the way that it did. The simple situation was that an AOS was ordered on B. Iroh for disrespect. This entire thing could have been avoided right from the get-go.

- Greyback x

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3 minutes ago, cjhrjone54 said:

A couple of things to note-

  • Why would the Grand Inquisitor care about an Administrative Manager from the CFP so as to prevent (her) from being arrested? In RP this does not make any sense.
  • As stated by others it is FailRP for the Grand Inquisitor to accept a bribe to assist hiding the AOS'd individual, and in relation to the above point as well as this particular set of circumstances there is no logical reason for him to do so.
  • Staff Abuse as noted by changing B. Iroh's playermodel & giving him cloak; attempting an assist with 'escorting' the AM out of the CFP Quarters, as noticed by Misahu when he walked into an invisible target
  • Staff Abuse via using a keypad to open the door, thus breaking the door in the process which as previously stated prevents the 62nd SK Company from effectly manning the Detention Block Checkpoint. This further leaves us open to any further breaches by EC's or otherwise and may also leave us locked in the Detention Block as the keypad is only one-sided.
    • Yes I understand that this could be seen as 'RP' for the GI to open the door, but use of a keypad should not be necessary. There are multiple RP ways of breaking entry into a highly-guarded facility (force-powers, lightsabers, etc.)
    • In addition, why would the GI clearly breach the front door but not the others as later seen in the video? If he clearly, in-RP, possessed the ability to do so, why would he not breach the other doors where he requested the SK to open them?

Personally in my experience as both a high-RP character and Moderator on other servers, I have never seen anything of the like and, if necessary, I would have gone to the appropriate measures to enforce appropriate RP and to prevent the Staff Abuse from happening. Therefore, the Staff Report in question is, in my opinion, a valid report with multiple claims that can and should be addressed for the betterment of not only the parties involved, but for the entire server as a whole. In-character or not, this is a situation that needs to be taken higher and dealt with appropriately. I should restate however that that is, and from my own personal experience as both a high-RP character & Server Moderator, my own personal opinion. The points I have made, however, remain fact.

There have been multiple uses of ISB personnel changing their playermodels into Stormtroopers to "spy" on personnel, and I would know because I was part of ISB when it happened. That kind of thing happens alot and is explained in RP. As for the cloaking device, Shadow Guard have access to them so it's not far fetched to believe the Grand Inquisitor could have used one from their arsenal, as once again personnel have RP'd troopers handing them weapons (ISB saying that they took an E-11D from the Death Troopers armory, for example). There's alot of ways to explain the incident in RP which you seem to be overlooking.
 

Let's disregard the bribe, as whether the GI would or wouldn't accept a bribe isn't really for us to say unless you have concrete lore proof (just like I don't believe a Captain equal to CL3 would class an Administrative Manager equal to CL4 as a "civilian" in a derogatory manner).

The main claims here seem to be that Wingza abused his position and powers to his benefit, but as we've seen (and as has been said multiple times) there was abuse on the behalf of the shock troopers as well. The STP clip through the wall to see into the HQ was clearly an abuse on your behalf, and the seemingly random event of Misahu walking directly into the Grand Inquisitors back as soon as he exited the doorway and going "YO YO YO" and firing a taser instantaneously would indicate a clear abuse of the C menu to see cloaked individuals (however this cannot be proven) and clear fail RP as I don't think any trooper would be stepping that close to the Grand Inquisitor, let alone risking hitting him with the taser instead of their intended suspect. I mean he sliced down two Imperial Officers equivalent to Senior Colonels if you go off their pins in rebels, what do you think he'd do to a shock trooper electrocuting him by accident.

 

At this point there's mishaps on both sides, and I think the best thing to be done here is to drop the subject. Downvoting comments that disagree with your point of view will just lead to tensions rising between people, when the matter is simply whether you disagree or agree with the staff report. Let all involved learn a lesson from the incident and move past it before it turns into open hostilities. 

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Just now, cjhrjone54 said:

Why would the Grand Inquisitor care about an Administrative Manager from the CFP so as to prevent (her) from being arrested? In RP this does not make any sense.

You can't make this comment without context, on the server, CFP and the Inquisitorius work together quite often. The Grand Inquisitor has obviously seen it worth while enough to protect an ally.
 

Just now, cjhrjone54 said:

As stated by others it is FailRP for the Grand Inquisitor to accept a bribe to assist hiding the AOS'd individual, and in relation to the above point as well as this particular set of circumstances there is no logical reason for him to do so.

Once again, Inquisitors are not entirely loyal to the Empire. They may be self-centred at times, you cannot say 100% that the Grand Inquisitor would not take a bribe, especially from someone he works together with often.

Just now, cjhrjone54 said:

Staff Abuse as noted by changing B. Iroh's playermodel & giving him cloak; attempting an assist with 'escorting' the AM out of the CFP Quarters, as noticed by Misahu when he walked into an invisible target

Bailey could have done this himself, he had a legitimate reason to change his model and equip the cloak. 

Just now, cjhrjone54 said:

Staff Abuse via using a keypad to open the door, thus breaking the door in the process which as previously stated prevents the 62nd SK Company from effectly manning the Detention Block Checkpoint. This further leaves us open to any further breaches by EC's or otherwise and may also leave us locked in the Detention Block as the keypad is only one-sided.

  • Yes I understand that this could be seen as 'RP' for the GI to open the door, but use of a keypad should not be necessary. There are multiple RP ways of breaking entry into a highly-guarded facility (force-powers, lightsabers, etc.)
  • In addition, why would the GI clearly breach the front door but not the others as later seen in the video? If he clearly, in-RP, possessed the ability to do so, why would he not breach the other doors where he requested the SK to open them?

 

You seem to agree that the GI would be able to open this door in RP, what other method do you think could be used to open it?
If he used the force to open it could he have just used his physgun to move it? Would you be ok with that?
 

The goal of entering the brig was to communicate with SK, there is no reason to breach another door.

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Hello Everyone.

I ask that the comments on this staff report stay on topic and that we keep bickering and pettiness to a minimum so this process can be as effective as possible.

Once you've had your say, please don't have a back and forth within the thread.

-Cecil

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1 hour ago, Joel said:

My problem with this is that Wingza went out of his way to not only remodel and then cloak the CFP member but then continues to attempt to break out the prisoner. In character and out of character there was no reason to do this other than to save him from standing in the brig for five minutes for something that was appropriate for him to be AOSed for in the first place. 

Honestly just want to see why Wingza has done this as it was never really necessary.

 

Granted that I am no longer a part of the event team anymore, I can vouch for Wingza partially in this situation in terms of the re-modelling and what not. When I was an event master, I entered multiple situations where it was possible for characters to be remodeled to become anonymous to escape an arrest although it required the said character having ready access to such equipment. Now I'm not sure if CompForce has their equipment stored in the CFP offices, but if they did then I don't see an issue with Baileys model being changed and if they have cloak in their kit, I don't see an issue with that either. Saying that, it would have been smarter for Wingza to call an Event Master to complete the remodeling because they wouldn't (hopefully) have any bias towards any parties and because Wingza was allegedly bias towards Bailey in this situation, it is most definitely wrong on his part. 

So Wingza mucked up in remodeling Bailey and probably should have asked for a neutral party to complete the act and Bailey could have most definitely got away had he played it smart. Although, there is a way that Shock could have found him out despite his change in identity (physically with the armour) by assuming that the only way he could have left the room was in cloak with a CompForce uniform. Making this judgement, Shock could have then called for all CompForce to come to the detention block for a strip search from which Bailey could have been found. 

Edit: Upon reading over my comment, I wanted to add that I have only ever anonymously hid players as 6th Army Brigade and not as any specialized regiment so this is new waters. Although in a roleplay sense, it wouldn't be an abuse of power for Bailey to use equipment given to CompForce to escape the situation (granted it is in their load out).

Edit 2: Although it would most definitely spawn a new instance of roleplay, is the Grand Inquisitor voided from having friends entirely? I know that IC he is meant to be a menacing force of power and he shouldn't have any reason to make acquaintances with anyone outside the Inquisitorius although that doesn't remove the possibility of him having friends outside. In this case and as bad as it may seem, Wingza could have most definitely brought a cloak from the Shadow Guard arsenal to give to Bailey although its a bit of a coincidence for him to have one on him.

Please forgive me if I have read this situation incorrectly as I haven't played in a while nor have I played on Titan Base yet.

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First off, I would like to disclaim that I am not trying to enter into an argument here. I am merely discussing the topic at hand, so please, if any offense is taken, know that I do not mean any.

39 minutes ago, Jye said:

... and the seemingly random event of Misahu walking directly into the Grand Inquisitors back as soon as he exited the doorway and going "YO YO YO" and firing a taser instantaneously would indicate a clear abuse of the C menu to see cloaked individuals (however this cannot be proven) and clear fail RP as I don't think any trooper would be stepping that close to the Grand Inquisitor, let alone risking hitting him with the taser instead of their intended suspect.

I have no doubts that the potential misuse of C Menu and-or third person is in play here, and all members should know of the rules surrounding this. However, and I cannot say this without verification, the abuse could be used in an OOC situation such as this present "Staff Report", so as to provide proof of evidence. In this instance, I personally find the abuse excusable if there is clear intent to expose a larger power abuser. Clipping the camera through the wall is very different to spawning a keypad to open a locked door, for example. This is a very fine line however and I will not go further into it.

That being said, I take it back to the Grand Inquisitor. Close ally or not, he would/should have been able to detect the presence of the CFP member right behind him through his in-RP force powers. The fact that he doesn't take any further action when the SK suddenly get in close-range to apprehend the suspect, also indicates that he was IC/OOC aware of this and was actively trying to assist in an escape, and did not want to escalate the situation further by pulling up the SK on the 'breach of personal space', and-or subsequently prove that he was in fact assisting an escape.

35 minutes ago, Jay Lamar said:

You seem to agree that the GI would be able to open this door in RP, what other method do you think could be used to open it?
If he used the force to open it could he have just used his physgun to move it? Would you be ok with that?

If he had used a valid-RP reason to move the door then there would be no reason for us to question it OOC. IC, however, it could be treated as misuse of Imperial Property, however that is another story entirely. In this particular situation, there is clear evidence that an indecise method was used to breach the SK Checkpoint. There's two ways we can then look at this:

  • (OOC) Wingza spawned a keypad to open the SK Detention Block door, so as to gain entry. No proper use of RP here. (Staff Abuse)
  • (IC) A keypad mysteriously and suddenly appears on the SK Detention Block door, following the breach that was the suspected cause of the GI. So did he in fact use 'force powers', or did he suddenly become an expert in Engineering? (Fail RP)
35 minutes ago, Jay Lamar said:

The goal of entering the brig was to communicate with SK, there is no reason to breach another door.

If his goal was to communicate with SK, he could have done so without breaching the door in the first place. "There is no reason to breach another door" - so why did he breach the first door at all if he only wanted to communicate? Again, no logic is used here.
 

26 minutes ago, Cecil said:

Once you've had your say, please don't have a back and forth within the thread.

-Cecil

I just read this now and will now back down from the conversation. If there is anything I would like to go into detail with further I will take it to PM's; the same goes for anyone who would like to discuss anything further with me, please don't hesitate to PM me.

- Greyback x

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From an Event Master perspective, Taki essentially explained it perfectly. I have no direct issues with the whole modelling Bailey in a COMPFORCE Agent thing, as long as there was prior and proper RP to back this up. With the proper RP, anything can happen really. However, I am somewhat disgruntled about the fact that the action was done before any consultation with an Event Master. Yes, you are part of management, I understand and you should have the right to oversee the RP on the server, however, it would have gone much more smoothly if it was oversaw by a staff member with experience in managing RP situations of this scale, and staff members who were actually trained to use the model command and other Gmod utilities to provide a wider avenue for RP.

As for the whole keypad thing, the evidence is there. It is undeniable. Wingza did, in fact, spawn in a keycard scanner to access the detention block and proceeded to permaprop it, according to the video. This action is a blatant abuse of power, unfortunately. This is the main issue here that needs to be looked at, this is the biggest part of the report that should not be overlooked. Not the bribery, nor the COMPFORCE armour (Even then those two points have valid rebuttals).

There's no RP reason for the Grand Inquisitor to walk up the detention block and install a keycard scanner with his name on it. To those who are arguing the fact that the Inquisitors would accept bribes, yeah fair enough, why not, but the character we're talking about is the Grand Inquisitor, not some lackey Inquisitor. There has been no evidence in canon that the Grand Inquisitor would do such a thing. In fact, the Grand Inquisitor was the most upheld and orthodox of the Inquisitors, upholding the Inquisitorius' rules.

I'm not going to suggest a demotion from staff manager, but I will point out that some staff have been demoted for less. 

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I'm confused as to how Bailey (Iroh) or Wingza got that equipment in the first place. That was the CFP HQ, not an armoury. We wouldn't have any reason to inspect any armour or anything of that sort, so why would there be that armour? Being CFP myself, I don't quite get why or how they got that equipment. Also, are we assuming that Bailey knows how to use specialist equipment now? Doesn't that take years for Shadowtroopers to master and use properly? Furthermore, we're not here to fight, so Bailey can't know Cloak for the sake of "in case you need to use it", since CFP doesn't go into combat.

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Below is my summary of the Staff Report and each point made, as well as some counter-points made in which I believe Shock were MetaGaming, FailRP'ing, as well as power gaming throughout the night. It summarises all three videos with evidence linked to them and then concludes my opinion on the Staff report overall. Throughout all these videos, your Discord voice isn't being transmitted, no fault of your own as Shadowplay can get a bit muddled up, however, it is slightly concerning the amount of talking that is done in Discord for things related to the ingame scenario, especially ones found out via OOC methods.

Moving on, I will begin my summary, rebuttal of your arguments and counter-arguments.

To begin, prior to all the videos, I see a lot of text stating Wingza gave me the cloak and modelled me, he didn't do this at all, I gave myself cloak and modelled myself, this was not Wingza, to get this out of the way immeditately. I spoke with Cecil & Zaspan about the scenario, and they agreed that it was unlikely that I would be able to get the armour, it was more of a gray area in the RP that was used by myself to evade capture. On top of this its never really been explained how cloak works in the Star Wars universe and if it took skill to use at all. The reason we had the armour in the room is because earlier in the day while making propaganda, we brought in a set of armour (due to CF being busy) and took images of it for Winters. However, this isn't pertinent to the report as its not what the report is about, just explaining how the RP ensued, and how it wasn't Wingza who modelled me or gave me the cloak.

Moving on, I will be sign posting all the videos and the responses to them I've made, as well as specific parts of these videos I find interesting or pertinent to the staff report as a whole.

Video 1 "The AOS"

This may be accusatory, however, in this video at around 14 seconds you can actually see the message put in a Discord and the smile reacts. This actually sort of puts forward my idea that Shock are looking for reasons to arrest CFP and AOS them, otherwise why would that comms message be in the discord with so many reacts? This is just speculation however, and should not be cemented into the RP, but should be thought about when looking at the way they conduct themselves in this scenario.

Video 2 "FailRP and Corruption" (Evidence)

"I'm third personing through the wall, he's sitting right at the door." - Wizz at 1:23
You using third person to peak through the wall at 2:09.
Misahu taking the OOC seeing of the chat at 2:54 and confirming "We have no other option. He comes out and we run in." which is MetaGaming and FailRP.

The connotation that the Grand Inquisitor "does not accept credit bribes" is only personal experience and assumptions of the character. Secondly, the CFP are the largest information gathering network in the Empire, would it not make sense for him to continue to gain "knowledge" as you have stated. On top of this, the GI could have possibly been taking bribes to earn himself credits in order to possibly even overthrow Vader at one point in time, as is the way of the Sith.
Secondly, yes, I dapped him up in the /me, I thought it would be a funny and interesting addition to the RP, even as a joke. This is not FailRP, hence the GI not /me'ing back, imagine a one-sided handshake with one person standing there stone-faced. This is the scenario that occured in the situation.

The Shock not believing the Grand Inquisitor and breaching again at 4:44 is, to me, FailRP as he's a scary individual and most wouldn't even attempt to go against him in their right minds.
As the Chimaera Squad member mentions at 5:10 "How is the Captain obstructing justice when he was trying to get out?" which isn't actually the point of what he was doing, he was attempting to stop Shock raiding a CL6 facility with no permission from anyone after the Grand Inquisitor says "He's not in there."

Next point, Shock spend the next 5 or so minutes looking through CFP HQ with the notion that "He's cloaked." even though no RP suggests that at all, this can be seen through you literally walking into walls at 6:25 through to about 6:38, which is silly, you can use your eyes.

At 7:21 you show ULX Logs which have been provided to you, presumably by Misahu, which is against the rules of being a Staff Member, but I don't mind because its pertinent to the report, however, in this RP scenario, we had the CompForce armour which allowed myself to cloak, as a Staff Manager, he made the executive decision to say yes to as is his role as a Super Admin, involved in the RP or not.

At 7:52 you see Misahu standing a fair ways away from the door, even prior to it opening. At 8:10 after the GI moves, Misahu moves immediately into a position that would allow him to collide with me, closer and further right of the door, presumably using the C menu to see myself and then immediately tasing the air, which, once again, in my opinion is FailRP and MetaGaming.

At 8:42 Misahu accuses the GI of assisting me (which he did) which in of itself is FailRP. RP wise, everyone is scared of the Inquisitors, accusations like that got you killed with no repurcussions. They were Sith, always angry and always looking to get rid of people who annoyed them.

At 9:03 Dophamoo makes a funny pun, not relevant, but its funny to me.

Grand Inquisitor Spawning Keypad to Open Detention Block

Most of this video actually decent, it clearly says what happened, Grand Inquisitor (Wingza) placed the keypad on the door and you're correct in that regard.

However! At 1:13, it is said by Pryce "That Braino agrees that everyone is in the wrong but Shock." Which is extremely incorrect and could actually look very bad for @Braino as a Staff Member especially because of the impartial role he is supposed to play OOC, which Braino actually attempted to do for the scenario.

Video 3 "Abuse of Staff Power and FailRP" (Evidence)

Now, Wingza did put down the keycard scanner to enter the room, that was his mistake, I will admit. However, the door not being openable from the outside is a bit silly in my opinion, and so rather than deleting the doors for example, or cutting through them in RP, which is not what he did, you're right. This is the only staff abuse in my opinion in the entire video, especially because Wingza did not realise that there wasn't meant to be a keycard there like there is on every other Brig door on every other map.

At 0:45 you attempt to third person glitch through the door again, to no avail.

At 1:34 you see Misahu say "We have evidence that suggests he was attempting to hide the prisoner." as an excuse to not let the Grand Inquisitor into the facility, though that evidence is grasping at straws at best.

At 2:40 your text of "Unfortunately I was not present for the breach. I asked my subordinates what information they had, eventually something turned up.." What turned up was an OOC realisation that he had spawned the keycard and Krennic showing up to get rid of it after asking questions. "So people always have to comms to get in?" The Server Manager didn't even know that the door operated this way, hence, the Staff Manager probably wouldn't know as well, especially since its not that way for any other door on the Server, anywhere.

Throughout this video, we hear Arkan / Gideon Hask, the person who orchestrated the entire court case (not actually relevant to the report, however, pertinent to FailRP and MetaGame) either in Teamspeak or Discord with the Shock Troopers. This cements in my mind, that the actual adjudicator / tipstaff role for the Court case was heavily biased the entire time, including having Chubbs (Khronos) removed for talking with us, while allowing Galle to stay whilst he was talking to you folks. This is disappointing to see actually, because for a while I thought you'd won the court case fair and square.

This report isn't on me, but at 3:49 you hear Arkan / Gideon Hask say "Bailey realised he couldn't noclip this time, so he had to use cloak." as a direct reference to my Staff Report from September 2018 (over a year ago now) which, to me, is blatant disrespect, considering all I've done since then for the Community and the way I've tried to be a better person overall even with my mental health declining throughout 2019 due to year 12. On top of this, prior to cutting to black, Arkan says "Imagine how shit the situation would be if Bailey...", once again, due to his previous statement, lets assume that was also going to be disrespectful.

On top of this, in this channel you hear multiple Staff Members who do nothing about it, and then go on to laugh about it, I won't name their names, but it really does hurt me as a human being even if the report isn't explicitly about me. On top of this, you can see them hungry to hurt me in RP, even if its for a "justified reason" its concerning to see Staff members and high ranking individuals speak about being unbias and then have this video come out showing that they weren't.

During my time writing this, you privated the video and edited some parts out, unsure why, however, I decided to record it and re-upload the original to keep all the evidence on the table. The ORIGINAL video can be seen at this link.

The end text of the video says that the keycard was permapropped "One can only hope it was not done to hide who had placed the keycard in the first place." is competely accusatory and downright incorrect, he did it because he assumed the keycard was going to be there forever, not because he wanted to hide it was him, logs show everything.

Extras - Not directly related to the Staff Report

This video begins with a black screen, the text accusing Wingza of affecting the Inquisitors in a negative way through his past actions, which is an accusation with no evidence or base, much like this entire Staff Report. It then shows Shock, once again having me arrested for spitting on a droid, a droid of all things, which once again shows Shock attempting to Force RP and power game their way into a demotion for me. You can also hear Braino say "You get back here!" even if it was in a sarcastic tone, they were following me in order to help Shock keep my location, as I am quite good at using Climb SWEP to escape. This was not even Inquisitors doing anything, let alone Wingza causing them to do so.

At 1:28 in this video it highlights the Grand Inquisitor mind tricking you, which is what you based the 'suspicion' of the GI on, which is where I find the FailRP and power gaming to come from in this whole scenario. You state that you had body cameras on you, even though you were stripped by them, which you conveniently left out of your recording, the logs can be seen below.

https://gyazo.com/a7d29da2c65677d0e88d05c4f1d53228 - Wingza confirming them being stripped.

https://gyazo.com/d592268c274e824296929daf8c35b35d - Sterling confirming they were stripped.

The entire RP of Shock being suspicious of the Grand Inquisitor comes from the video of him mind-tricking them, even though they wouldn't even be aware of what a mind trick is, even with video (that they shouldn't have, because they were stripped.) This can be seen in Star Wars: A New Hope where Obi-Wan Kenobi mind tricks those two Sand Troopers and the ones standing close by don't even notice, let alone understand what a mind trick is.

In Conclusion

Before continuing on here, I know many people will only read this conclusion, I implore you to read the rest of the response, as it is filled with proper rebuttals and a lot of proper evidence to rebuke their claims and throw this entire report out. I also believe that upvoting and downvoting specific people just because they agree or disagree with you is a bit immature, even the people that agree with Wingza in this regard, much like myself. Now I shall begin my conclusion.

This entire report is grasping at straws and actually highlights a lot more problems that Shock displayed throughout their entire scenario than Wingza spawning in a keypad. It could have stopped in the RP scenario last night and been done with, however, Shock decided to make this a public affair that is now actually showing them in a worse light than it is Wingza in my opinion. It highlights their forced RP, their failRP, metagame and overall terrible attitude in the entire scenario. They were also given the option to make it an internal report submitted to Management only, but decided instead to show the entire community past, present and future (when they come back and look at this again)

Especially the video that explicitly has me insulted in the audio backing with Shock, and all the Staff Members involved doing nothing about the blatant and direct disrespect.

Overall, I think this report is more of an attempt to get Wingza in trouble over nothing because Shock feel like not enough was done on the night of the scenario, hence the report was created. There's not much else I have to say, I disagree with the report and I don't think anything should happen to Wingza at all apart from a talking to about making sure thinks before acting (in regards to the keypad), and that's all.

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Just my two cents, treat it however you like.

Giving cloak to Bailey ain't the smartest move especially in this scenario and definitely shouldn't have been done, I'm sure Wingza already knew this though. Giving Bailey the stuff needed to make his escape was probably not too wise in this moment. 

But around 8:10 in the Chapter 2 vid, it looks like Misahu is deliberately trying to bump into a guy who he shouldn't know is cloaked in that exact spot but does. I'm guessing after a quick look into the logs to check if he was given cloak or not. I don't need to mention the third person camera abuse either, since some others already have talked about it before me, but both of these statements are not the main topic here. 

One party went overboard with their actions and the other responded by also going out of line but not about on the same degree. I'm also guessing SK/RT got pretty peeved when Bailey threw on the invisibility cloak and pulled a harry potter.

An apology from the main party is all that's needed here imo and some reflectin, anymore than that and this will lead to long-term heat between the involved people which no one wants.

Drama sucks

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I have gone ahead and removed a handful of comments with useless bickering or misinformation, this isn't a censorship I am just clearing the thread to make the thread easier to assess/come to a solution.

For comments from now on please note that this is not a staff report on Bailey, this report is being placed against Wingza so please keep it relevant to Wingza's actions only and feel free to make one seperate on Bailey if you believe his actions were in serious violation of the staff guidelines.

To clarify with the misinformation of what I was talking about, Bailey gave himself the cloak, not wingza and Bailey modelled himself, not wingza. Hopefully that clears some things up.

Thank you.

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Alright well firstly I want to hear Wingza's understanding of the situation and his motivations. I'm going to make a assumption here based on my knowledge of Wingza which can't say we are super close or anything but based on what I know I don't think he would have taken these actions with malicious intent or intent to abuse his power. He was acting in what he thought was appropriate in role play though his actions may have been influenced by a OOC friendship with Bailey. (( Don't know them well enough to judge however is a possibility and I am again assuming so because they were in sith together.)) 

So I feel some of his actions may be considered fail rp and placing a key pad onto a door that should not have one is something a normal player could not do however in saying that he could cut through the door. 

And from my understanding given that Bailey was the one that gave himself cloak and modelled himself the keypad was the only act of using staff powers.

Now in saying that obviously as a member of management Wingza should be held to the highest standard higher then other players because he has a lot more influence across the server and is expected to be the one mediating issues which means he needs to meet certain standards of role play as it is the foundation of the server. So in terms of did Wingza's action break any rules in terms of role play and this report being a tool to highlight these failings to people with the power to warn him without causing issues within the staff team: Maybe as perhaps he wouldn't have taken the bribe but on the other hand he probably would have killed a lot more people.

 

Did he abuse his staff powers: I would say yes with the key pad as I feel it could have been carried out a lot better however I don't believe it was with the intent to use his staff powers to influence the situation. Merely continue the RP without more drastic measures and deal with shock's refusal to open the door despite him being a CL6 and generally scary dude.

 

Though my biggest issue with the report is at least the foundation of it in the longest video which is the fail rp and corruption video. Firstly as mentioned clipping the camera through the wall isn't role play just shouldn't have been done but more notable to me is the meta game that happened. Seeing through the wall bailey doing the bribe and then questioning the Wingza when he came out. While since my original version of my comment I have been informed Shock did spread out and continue searching for him leaving some people to monitor in case Bailey went there which good for them, Also that they did trust the Wingza IC at least at first. I still think perhaps there was a bit more questioning of him and some of the tone/body language with the shields was a bit unwarranted and could have quite possibly gotten them killed certainly might have with other CL6 I am glad that it wasn't as bad as it seems in the video due to more happening over the course of the entire scenario. 

 

So that's my opinion on the matter. Wingza should have spawned the keypad and maybe should have acted a bit differently in RP however the same can be said about other people involved.

You have any questions on what I've said here or believe any of the information included in here to be wrong feel free to PM me to correct it to not mess things up here. Everything is my understanding of the situation which may not be complete as multiple perspectives and etc, 

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Edited about 2 sentences because I was informed Shock had taken some of my recommended actions. However was not included across the videos due to the length of the scenario from AOS to conclusion. Otherwise my comments and summary stand as they were.
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