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Hey everyone how are you all doing?

It has come to my attention that Shadow has been abandoned and has no members whatsoever. In saying this I believe that if all possible, we could revive the regiment and bring forth new members and better people. My reasons why shadow should be revived are as follow:

1. Added regiment so less ST's

2. Another Recon and stealth regiment for the empire

3. It's a serious RP regiment

4. Its canon and in legends (Lore)

5. This regiment should in my opinion be elite as well only because the RP is serious, has people that are good at marksmanship, stealth, recon and leadership

6. I used to be a member and think that it would be a shame to lose a regiment

7. Guard duty at regional Government is done by shadow

These are the reasons I believe that shadow should be revived and I would like to also take it upon myself that I see that the regiment handle's itself properly and lives up to its purpose (If this becomes a possibility I myself would like to join and become 2nd or 1st in command of the regiment)

Please revive Shadow Troopers, we need them

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5 minutes ago, Cryo said:

Do you actually have to donate in order to become Shadow Commander?

 

Not really. If you are worthy of it then the IHC generals will definitely consider you or you could donate for it.

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4 minutes ago, Cryo said:

How do I prove myself? and also I've been playing on the server for a month now.

A month isn’t long enough to “prove yourself”.  Try 6 months.

Shadow almost always goes up on the donation store for $65AUD if I remember correctly (I personally have never seen it go up with commander applications).

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You also don’t get given a Commander role because you “suggest” to start the regiment again, that just isn’t how it works.

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I never said I wanted the commander role I just want it revived and if I it did get revived and I join in I'll try my hardest and upmost best into getting either first or second in command because I know how to command a regiment and I know what's expected. If I wanted the commander role, I think I would need to prove myself and be more active on the server just to even get a position. Even if I have experience and are qualified to handle such a position. Don't bully me just because I want Shadow back

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18 minutes ago, Cryo said:

I never said I wanted the commander role I just want it revived and if I it did get revived and I join in I'll try my hardest and upmost best into getting either first or second in command because I know how to command a regiment and I know what's expected. If I wanted the commander role, I think I would need to prove myself and be more active on the server just to even get a position. Even if I have experience and are qualified to handle such a position. Don't bully me just because I want Shadow back

@Cryo Pinejack is not bullying at all and it was you who said "How do I prove myself" for this role.

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55 minutes ago, Pavonis said:

@Cryo Pinejack is not bullying at all and it was you who said "How do I prove myself" for this role.

Then don't treat me like someone who doesn't know the rules and hasn't played G-mod at all to not know how things work. Also I just scolded for RP by Storm commando 2ndl Niner because everyone at debrief saw him as a zombie and he changed his skin back to a storm commando to which I saw with 2 other ST's and I told him we need to escort you because he could've been still infected so I told the other 2 Diamond formation and he threatened us to point our guns away otherwise he'll shoot he started counting to 3 and I got Galle an Shock/Riot trooper who asked to arrest niner to which he replied no and then as I walk out of debrief Niner said "This doesn't look good for a person who's trying to become shadow/commander" something along those lines to which I came back and said follow the RP rules. Also when he was a zombie he shot me with his DC-17s Fail RP

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2 minutes ago, Cryo said:

Then don't treat me like someone who doesn't know the rules and hasn't played G-mod at all to not know how things work. Also I just scolded for RP by Storm commando 2ndl Niner because everyone at debrief saw him as a zombie and he changed his skin back to a storm commando to which I saw with 2 other ST's and I told him we need to escort you because he could've been still infected so I told the other 2 Diamond formation and he threatened us to point our guns away otherwise he'll shoot he started counting to 3 and I got Galle an Shock/Riot trooper who asked to arrest niner to which he replied no and then as I walk out of debrief Niner said "This doesn't look good for a person who's trying to become shadow/commander" something along those lines to which I came back and said follow the RP rules. Also when he was a zombie he shot me with his DC-17s Fail RP

Sounds like a personal problem you're better talking to staff about sorting this out rather than posting this on the forums to try to vaguely prove some random point.

In regards to Shadow, it has been hard to keep alive, which is the case for many other regiments such as 442nd. This is because its role has been overshadowed by other regiments such as SCAR and the like, which is a shame since I personally like the idea of Shadow far better than the small ragtag group of SCAR (not regiment disrespect, it's literally lore).

Despite several regiment rebalances, it appears that the only way Shadow will survive for any reasonable amount of time is that its Commander needs to be somebody in the leagues of KGBSoviets or @-CML- [IG] Divisionary, who were competent, influential and very prominent Commanders of the old days. Ever since Divisionary's departure, I don't believe we had Shadow stay as relevant.

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Look, there's no problem with Shadow, the regiment is a perfectly fine regiment. There have been many regiments that have had highs and lows, that have been the best and been the worst. 442nd is a good example. This time last year the regiment was one of the best in regards to activity and ability, now it's not so good.

 

Here's the reason why we currently have regiments, like Shadow, that don't do well:

1. Lack of competent commander candidates

This is the number one problem with regiments currently. Sure, everyone wants that coveted commander position, but 1 out of 20 people can actually stay in the position for a reasonably long time and less can be good commanders that can revive/actually run regiments. The reason why numpties get put in charge of the regiments and then the regiments die again is because people get put in charge that can't handle the role and IHC has to focus on more important regiments like Shock and the ST's. We have around 24 regiments (including sub regiments) to take care of and things slide through the cracks a lot because of how much ground we need to cover with the small group we have (sometimes we have many men out at a time like me).

 

2. Sheep culture

This is a problem that is bigger than the server, but unfortunately most people are like sheep - they follow the majority. Humans are always in packs, it's part of our biology and it's effects our opinions. If some stupid guy who's new to the server and hasn't been around for as long as someone like myself, they'll say that Shadow or 442nd is a bad regiment because it keeps dying. Stupid guy 2 then listens to the original stupid guy and believes what he says and then avoids Shadow because he now thinks it's a bad regiment. Now from experience, no regiment is inherently bad, it's all about the commanders and how they run things, but stupid people who think they know everything don't understand that and tarnish the reputation of regiments.

 

3. Very little people can give a stuff to revive regiments once they have them

This kind of covers similar grounds to my first point, but majority of people do not know how to revive a regiment/don't care enough to do so. Reviving a regiment is 10 times harder than it's made out to be if you want quality over quantity and quality always leads to longevity. The problem is most people don't understand that or think that reviving a regiment is hopeless. This is pretty much reflected by the amount of veterans on the server who have revived regiments. I can probably count members of the server who have pulled off a revive on one hand, and we can't move most of them into other regiments because most of us are in high ranking positions where we can do more good from.

 

So when you have no competent candidates, the regiment in question is being dragged in the mud and nobody cares enough to revive the damn thing, you're kind of stuffed into a corner. This is the position that Shadow is in. Whilst I've been busting my hump at work/helping the ST's without being on the server though, I have devised a plan to combat these points. I might be back sooner than I thought and once I'm briefed on what's going on once I have returned, fixing these regiments is on the top of the to do list.

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Wasn't there something about mendez killing 66 people with a dropship and thats why it's? Also does that mean its would be better off joining Scar? I wanna join them, but their chain of command i reckon needs some improvent and second last time i was in a reg and got kicked i finally got introduced to a rule call reg hopping which really confuses the heck outta me in terms of its rules. My previous regiment kicked me for inactivity even though i did the 14 day trial and got demoted twice. I only found out today that if you leave the regi before 3 days joining you get demoted and even if you join a reg you still lose ranks. So what can I do?

 

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You can do whatever you want. No one is stopping you from doing anything except revive Shadow or any other regiment. SCAR has it's own issues which I will address now that Gatsby has told me what I need to know, but that's not your problem, nor do you need to know how I'm going to deal with it. Here's some responses to your other points:

 

- Got no idea what this inactivity 14 day rule is, tell me the regiment and I might be able to do something about it.

- When you leave a regiment to join another, it's up to the commander on whether or not you get demoted. If a commander needs a SGT to bring experience into the regiment, I don't really mind if they recruit a SGT. That being said, you can't have too many of one rank in your regiment in the higher ranks. Only Shock/Riot and the ST's can get away with that, but that's because they both have sub-regiments.

- The three day rule is put in place to stop reg-jumping. Choose what regiment you want wisely, because you stuck there for three days, even if you join the ISB/Government/Navy.

 

But once again phrased differently, I don't care what you do, that's up to you. My job is to just make sure that the army is helping anyone who needs and getting the army running smoothly, and at the moment it mostly is, there's just a few problems that need to be patched up. If you want to wait until Shadow gets revived, that's fine. Outside of that, what you do is up to you.

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Stay In One Regiment, Try To Rank Up...

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4 hours ago, Cryo said:

Do you actually have to donate in order to become Shadow Commander?

 

To answer before about shadow being donation or chosen, as far as i'm aware Shadow Troopers is a donation regiment and i have already ask management to put it on the store, certain regiments get commanders chosen by IHC but not all.

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40 minutes ago, Stevo. said:

You can do whatever you want. No one is stopping you from doing anything except revive Shadow or any other regiment. SCAR has it's own issues which I will address now that Gatsby has told me what I need to know, but that's not your problem, nor do you need to know how I'm going to deal with it. Here's some responses to your other points:

 

- Got no idea what this inactivity 14 day rule is, tell me the regiment and I might be able to do something about it.

- When you leave a regiment to join another, it's up to the commander on whether or not you get demoted. If a commander needs a SGT to bring experience into the regiment, I don't really mind if they recruit a SGT. That being said, you can't have too many of one rank in your regiment in the higher ranks. Only Shock/Riot and the ST's can get away with that, but that's because they both have sub-regiments.

- The three day rule is put in place to stop reg-jumping. Choose what regiment you want wisely, because you stuck there for three days, even if you join the ISB/Government/Navy.

 

But once again phrased differently, I don't care what you do, that's up to you. My job is to just make sure that the army is helping anyone who needs and getting the army running smoothly, and at the moment it mostly is, there's just a few problems that need to be patched up. If you want to wait until Shadow gets revived, that's fine. Outside of that, what you do is up to you.

The regiment was Chimaera Squad and he went inactive for more than 3 days, warranting a kick. The 14 day trial period is used by navy and it's sub-regiments.

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37 minutes ago, Bevan said:

The regiment was Chimaera Squad and he went inactive for more than 3 days, warranting a kick. The 14 day trial period is used by navy and it's sub-regiments.

1. the 14 day trial period was already passed 

2. I put an inactive report and got kicked anyway

3. Gatsby decided to demote me twice for some without Gunjies permission on how to kick me

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