Trpimir

Vector Company to Incinerator troopers

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I am sure many of you have been witnesses to the problem facing Vector Companys model with the main problem revolving around Private level Stormtroopers calling my men various names and insults such as Nazis and KKK members, which is very annoying, breaking the roleplay and upsetting to many members of Vector company, alongside this in a recent event revolving around rebels dressed in Snowtrooper garb ,my men were escorting high ranking personnel when they were mistaken to be these Snowtroopers and thus were gunned down quickly by Imperial forces.

I am writing today to ask of this community two things the change of the Vector Model to the old Incinerator trooper model and the name of Vector company changed to Incinerator troopers, the other reason why this change is beneficial is that while Vector Company has no lore behind it aside from the creators lore, Incinerator troopers, however, have a significant amount more lore behind them and as a result would make it much easier and simpler to roleplay with the regiment with these changes in place.

I understand if these changes were to occur it would take quite some time and would most likely be around the next server update which I and Vector company are completely content with even longer wait if need be as long as the staff team would consider and hopefully accept our request. I also wish to thank you all for the support I and Vector company have gotten from the community regarding this matter and are very happy to see the community come to support this to improve other players experience.

I will post below images and links to the potential models I and Vector company would like to be changed to thank you all once again.

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The switch doesn’t need to be made and if imperial forces are too thick to distinguish you guys from rebels, they should be heavily punished for their idiocy 

 

also these models might mistake you for shock/riot

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I have to say, it's a bit weird having Nazi-sympathetic Snow Troopers walk around with flamethrowers. Is this even Star Wars anymore? 🤔

+1 to the change but not to Incinerator Troopers but instead Flame Troopers. As @Mauler said, these models can be easily mistaken for Shock/Riot models and I have even seen PACs of Shock/Riot troopers using Incinerator helmets.

I therefore suggest this model: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1102752649

It is high quality, easily recognisable and was the last Incinerator Trooper model we used before switching over to Vector Company, which means its appearance will be still stuck in the minds of our players.

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Uhhhh.

I don't really trust anyone with incin without knowing how to actually operate a flamethrower, there's a lot of variables, and should the switch be made, you might lose your commander position. Neutral

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11 minutes ago, Demonic said:

Uhhhh.

I don't really trust anyone with incin without knowing how to actually operate a flamethrower, there's a lot of variables, and should the switch be made, you might lose your commander position. Neutral

What does changing the player models have to do with his commanders position? +1 for the change.

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56 minutes ago, Demonic said:

Uhhhh.

I don't really trust anyone with incin without knowing how to actually operate a flamethrower, there's a lot of variables, and should the switch be made, you might lose your commander position. Neutral

Vector Company already have flamethrowers. 

+1 for the change. I've seen Vector Company members working hard to get this change approved.

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RIP the Changes that whitey made then xdd

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3 hours ago, pinejack said:

What does changing the player models have to do with his commanders position? +1 for the change.

 

2 hours ago, Jimka said:

Vector Company already have flamethrowers. 

+1 for the change. I've seen Vector Company members working hard to get this change approved.

My apologies I thought he was calling for a change of regiment. And I was unaware of their possession of a flamethrower. Changing response to +1

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-1, in time most people will know the difference between a Vector Trooper and a Snow Trooper.

The benifits I see of being vector is that you have the option to create your own lore.

While incinerators are stuck walking across hot planets. Vector Troopers can act as both cold assault and hot assault troopers. You have the option, which many regiments dont, to freely pick what makes your regiment.

 

We removed snow troopers, incin and flame troopers and merged them into one Extreme Enviroment Trooper Regiment.

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4 hours ago, SCHEFF said:

I have to say, it's a bit weird having Nazi-sympathetic Snow Troopers walk around with flamethrowers. Is this even Star Wars anymore? 🤔

+1 to the change but not to Incinerator Troopers but instead Flame Troopers. As @Mauler said, these models can be easily mistaken for Shock/Riot models and I have even seen PACs of Shock/Riot troopers using Incinerator helmets.

I therefore suggest this model: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1102752649

It is high quality, easily recognisable and was the last Incinerator Trooper model we used before switching over to Vector Company, which means its appearance will be still stuck in the minds of our players.

I think it would be a good change but as scheff has stated above it could be mistaken for shock/riot but the ones that he has suggest look very good. +1

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While I see that the main concern would be a resemblance to Shock/Riot I was actually recommended and asked if I should use these models with Lieutenant Vexer of Shock/Riot  who was one of the acting commanders during Gatsby holiday and who is a senior member of Shock/Riot and who would thus have much knowledge on the matter and have now spoken to commander Gatsby who agrees to the change, but if staff need a compromise I am willing but first please ask shock cause I'm sure they would  agree with me. 

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Neutral 

I can understand the point you are bringing across, while I do have a problem with the models I don't have much of an issue with Vector not being a lore regiment, as Keta said you can create your own lore and backstory and I can see the point of combining the effectiveness of snow and incinerator troopers to create a Extreme Environment Trooper regiment, so in reality the models: Yes a change would be nice, Vector: No, perhaps a rename might be okay but aside from that its fine as it is.

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3 hours ago, Keta said:

-1, in time most people will know the difference between a Vector Trooper and a Snow Trooper.

The benifits I see of being vector is that you have the option to create your own lore.

While incinerators are stuck walking across hot planets. Vector Troopers can act as both cold assault and hot assault troopers. You have the option, which many regiments dont, to freely pick what makes your regiment.

 

We removed snow troopers, incin and flame troopers and merged them into one Extreme Enviroment Trooper Regiment.

Your point is very interesting and I can agree with a lot of it. The only issue I have is that the Vector Company, in its current state, doesn't scream the idea that it is an "Extreme Environment Trooper" and also contains offensive imagery such as the SS symbols, which is an issue with the model itself.

Additionally, if we want to get technical, Vector Company should not be a Company as it is commanded by a Lieutenant Colonel, not a Captain or Major, which is the maximum rank which can command a Company. I used this site for evidence. If we want to be correct as well as stay with the idea that the regiment is to be an all-environment unit, they should be relabeled as Marines or Special Forces, as that would better suit their role. Vector Company is just the name the model creator used to call his addon, it does not necessarily need to correspond with what the server wishes to use for the regiment or models, which is what confused me when this regiment was first added.

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The reasoning behind the lore is that Vector has very poor lore behind it to the point of not even bothering to have cohesive lore, while Incinerator troopers have much more lore behind them making it much easier and even possible to properly roleplay with them, however with Vector there is so little lore behind that in its initial time as a regiment many troopers had little to go over and thus many of them became mingey to the point were I had to do numerous regimental purges and only a few veteran members of Vector remain as a result.

 

Overall it's me and all of Vector company wanting the model and name change, this would only help to improve the experience of other players it's not being unfair to others, we are not asking for a loadout change to become superior we simply want the model and name change, Vector does not mind waiting as long as it happens.

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+1 ive seen first hand how people joke about the current vector model and with how bad reg dis is getting changing the model i believe will stop all the jokes about vector company 

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Before becoming Commander of Shadow Troopers, i was a little PFC in Vector Company.

i remember walking down the hallways behind my commander Trpimir and having 2 ST privates run past screaming "WTF THE KKK ARE NOT STAR WARS"

this ruined the RP experience for myself and the rest of Vector

I can see the Shock resemblance problem, but i feel that getting rid of the bigger problem here which is the regimental disrespect occurring everyday is FAR more important

So a BIG FAT +1 from me whether it is a swap to incinerator or something else.

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Biggest +1  I think its a great call and im always going to support commanders for doing good things for there regiment however as Scheff stated the model is close to the shock model and it could be confused although its still better to end whatever reputation the current model has

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+1

This is a suggestion to essentially Remodel Vector so they don't resemble the KKK or the Nazi SS
Keep in-mind everyone that having new people to the server that don't know the regiments all that well often say "stupid" shit
I completely understand why you don't want to be associated with the KKK or the Nazi's...

Those models looks vaguely similar to Shocks models and some may use them for PAC...but reducing discrimination and racism within the server in my opinion is more important then somebody PAC

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+1

The models do look like shock trooper i have to say but if it is to help a cause of removing discrimination from the regiment of vector... I think its worth it

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